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I'd reccomend placing the safe up on a pedistal of some kind (concrete preferred). After putting out some house fires in homes with basements, there is often more than a foot of water in the basement. Sometimes more, just depends on the extent of fire and size of basement.

That is the one Bighorn I would not get from Costco. It's their "value" line safe that is 12 ga steel, vs all their others that are 10ga. Fireproofing is less, and the lock is cheap. If you call Bighorn when you order it, they will swap it out for a good manual lock for no charge though.

Just ordered a Savage 10MLII Smokeless Muzzleloader. Camo synthetic stock and stainless barrel.

I just ordered a Savage model 10MLII smokeless muzzleloader from them last night. called with a question today and their customer service was very friendly. Already got my trackking number and expecting the firearm in 2 days. Will probably do business with them again. Like mentioned...

Pricing was more like $2,000 - $6,000 if I remember right. They are made in USA, and I want to say they were constructed of 1/4" steel. Insurance is for $50,000 worth of loss.

My bad. Was outside and that just crossed my mind that I read it wrong. That works out about right... and a bunch of concrete to move by hand!

I looked at these at the NRA convention this spring. Good looking safes, and convenient access. Steel was pretty thick. Main drawback was no fire resistance available... but there is insurance if your guns burn up if I remember right.

Must be a miscalculation... So lets say the room is 4x4. Lets say the ceiling overlaps the walls by 1 foot on all 4 sides, which makes the ceiling 6x6 which makes 36 sq ft. The ceiling would have to be 3' 9" (45inches) thick to have used 5 yds of concrete. And the ceiling alone would weigh...