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Hm... I asked for evidence, none was forthcoming. Door is still open, but so far, nothing's come through. Good example of the aggressive tone I was talking about. Position challenged, immediate reference to shooting someone. Insult implying cowardice of my part, implied reference to...

Not really. Original question: Should people be able to bring concealed weapons into 80,000-seat stadiums? Fact: All major stadiums have policies banning possession of concealed weapons. Fact: There have been no problems. You seem to arguing that because of fact (2), you should eliminate fact...

<Attempt at avoiding answering posted question ignored> So, once again, which major stadiums do not have a No Firearms policy?

Not really, because so far, I have not seen a single response that would indicate that your subset of Pro-Concealed-Carry stadiums exists. Having no reported problems from an empty data set is not a persuasive argument. Similarly, having no reported problems from stadiums which have No Firearms...

I checked on the PAFOA forums and that is also the case in Pennsylvania. WI is still refining their procedures, since their permit law is so new, but it looks like the situation there is the same. The teams that lease the four major stadiums in PA have a policy of no weapons on premises. Three...

Kel Tec does not recommend a steady diet of +p in the P11.

Does that include Safeco Field and CenturyLink Stadium?

Point of clarification: at least in WI and, I believe, OH, state law does not bar concealed carry in stadiums. It is, technically, legal. However, the law also grants businesses the right to bar concealed carry on their premises, and the stadiums have chosen to do so. UW Madison decided to allow...

Seconded.

On that, we can agree.

That's because travel to and from stadium, etc. is not an issue. You have a CHL, you can carry no problem. Apparently your situation is that your stadium does a weapons check... sorry if I sound confused because I thought a couple of people said that some stadiums do allow concealed carry. How...

Second paragraph, My post #145. I think I addressed your questions.

Never said CCLs were a problem, only said a firearm was not a good choice for a stadium. Too much potential for collateral damage for me, you may feel differently, and I'm ok with that. In the case where trouble erupts in a crowded stadium I'd rather leave it to the police to do violence on my...

It doesn't, any more than having the gun guarantees your safety. There are no absolutes in life, you are always vulnerable to something. Fact. Anything else is an illusion. The stance I am taking is that in a stadium environment, you have to balance your feeling of personal safety with the...

Looks good, I salute your choice, sir. My palate, alas, in less sophisticated: New Castle Brown.

First part of my post. Population density, control of access from the outside, and security presence. In a stadium, you have 50,000 to 80,000 people seated as densely as on an airliner. Access is through clearly defined points where checks for restricted items can be easily done. Security...

I tried to make it clear that I have been responding to the original question in this thread, concealed guns in stadiums. Even a crowded mall or restaurant doesn't come close to packing people in like a stadium. The former two also are unrestricted access and have a low security presence. Many...

If a cop needs to pull a gun in a stadium, the panic is already underway. Local news this summer had a belligerent drunk at a baseball game. He was so drunk the tazer didn't work, they took him down with nightsticks. Only injury was to the actor, and he didn't feel it for hours. Cops are...

I believe you are misinterpreting. The incidence of most violent crimes in stadiums is essentially nonexistent. Assault is most of it and the vast majority of those is bad language and shoving. Life-endangering violent crime is very, very, very rare. It's also one of the rare occasions where you...