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    Current Model Amsec BF 6030 Vs. 2004

    I believe that more recent models have the cast fill in the floor where as the older models do not. I think I read somewhere that it was a marketing requested change & it doesn't greatly alter the actual performance of the unit. The newest models with the 2hr ratings may have a slight...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    For anyone who wants to read some serious research on the mechanics I found these two papers on then net: 1) http://josbrouwers.bwk.tue.nl/publications/Journal75x.pdf 2) http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire07/PDF/f07089.pdf
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Calcination of gypsum board starts at 80C (176F). A temperature of 120C (248F) will drive the calcination to conclusion. This property ensures that active thermal management engages at temperatures below that which will damage paper.
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Definitely interested to see what got Graffunder on the list
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Also remember that the ceramic blanket designed for a boiler furnace is not the same stuff used on a space shuttle. The thermodynamics of these types of materials have already been worked out on other forums in great detail. Its an education. No calcs were done on exotics like actual space...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    I believe that those CE heavy safes are made by Sun Welding in Simi Valley CA. Please share with all if you find out more from CE
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    Help on Gun Safe Decisions?

    Be sure to store all of your DIY tools in the second safe. That way you don't make it easy for someone to use your own tools against you. It forces them to bring their own party favors.
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    Hygrometer Recommendation Experiences with Extech 445713

    Thanks guys. I am currently using 2 of the smaller EVA units and am running at 45% - 48%. About once every 2 weeks or so I recharge 1 of the units. FYI
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    Moore, OK Tornado took the house, left the gun safe!

    Hi Team, I have never lived through a tornado so you are correct to say he doesn't know, but.... I would completely believe that the safe would stay in place if bolted (or very heavy) because I always question the actual amount of force applied by the tornados when I look at how weakly the...
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    Graffunder / CB900F

    Very Nice
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    Safe Door Seals - Should an RF6528 have em

    a1abdj - please post pics of amvault after fire Hi a1abdj, You recently posted some fantastic pictures (on a differnt forum) of an Amvault Composit safe (identical construction to an RF6528) that went throug a total burndown. You also had some closeups of the contents. Would it be possible...
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    Hygrometer Recommendation Experiences with Extech 445713

    Hi All, I purchased the Extech. It was $36 with free shipping online. It is easy to use and started providing results immediately. After 24 hours the safe interior is reading 42% - 47% min/max with an accuracy of +- 4%.
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    Hygrometer Recommendation Experiences with Extech 445713

    Rcmodel - I would expect that the unit would be more difficult to drill than most based on its construction. I can by the hygrometer and quite a few more EVA's (if needed) for the number of bits I would ruin drilling it.
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    Hygrometer Recommendation Experiences with Extech 445713

    Thanks a1abdj - It looks like I will need to keep a close eye on it for a couple of years. I like the looks of the Extech so will probably get that.
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    Hygrometer Recommendation Experiences with Extech 445713

    Hi All, I have been worried about moisture levels in my RF6528 and using a golden rod is not an option because it has no holes. Right now I have two of the smaller EVA 333 and they are only lasting about 2 weeks. I would like to get a Hygrometer. I am warry of those for cigar humidors so...
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    Second TL-30 Safe Test Video ??

    Hi All, This and several other forums make reference to the UL Meilink TL-30 Safe test video (its excellent), but I have not seen any references to any other similar videos. The other day I found a youtube video of a guy attacking the walls of what they describe as a TL-30x6 with a...
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    Practical experience with heavy TL safe on concrete slab

    Depending on how well organized your city building department is, you may be able to have them locate the plans to your house and see what PSF your slab is rated for. Unfortunately for me the plans to my house were in such bad shape we could not read the PSF rating. More bad news - the...
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    Safe Door Seals - Should an RF6528 have em

    Door Seals Have Been Installed on the RF6528 After a good bit of work the door seals have been installed. BACKGROUND: I ordered 3 strips from AMSEC based on their recommendation. The strips are 77 3/4" Long x 9/16 wide x 1/8" tall. They are a spot on color match to the black interior walls...
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    Safe Quandary

    The current AMSEC catalog lists the SF5924 as 514lbs. If one were to assume the door was 1/3 of the total safe weight then removing the door would reduce the body weight to 343lbs. That is within the weight limits of a refrigerator dolly. It may also be possible to remove the shelving and...
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