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So long ! Two items to clear up... Quote #1 -------------- Here's to large, slow bullets! A 230 grain .45 slug is twice as massive as the typical 9mm. 115 grain slug. Momentum is directly proportional to mass and velocity.. The velocity of the 9mm. slug (about 1200 ft/sec.) is certainly...

Capacity issues Of course 15 or 17 rounds should never be needed and I fully see the point that we do not live in the movies where gunfights go on for many rounds. Usually after only one round, someone is dead or incapacitated in the real world. All of your arguments are very convincing and...

Now that I got your attention... Hey great replies everybody. Seriously, Cceared up a lot of my misconceptions.. No kidding. Also, incredible pictures Sven, that is a beautiful gun. OK, Boats... 2 of the 3 guns you claimed killed thousands were FULL AUTO. I could also cite the thousands...

Still rules I'm not a fan of the 1911 personally but acknowledge it's position: -Manual safeties on handguns, can be in the wrong position at the wrong time and get you killed with an AD or get you killed when the gun doesn't fire. -Don't care for the feeding characteristics of the .45...

Thanks R Bull: Appreciate the info. Pico

CZ use R Bull: Do you have any info concerning reliability reports with the CZ pistols in the military and police from the Czech Republic? My CZ has been perfect since the day I bought it. It never met a round it didn't like. I wish they would bring the CZ 110 over here. I'd buy one in a...

Price jump Haven't the latest Sig Pro series handguns shown a significant price increase? I recall when they were introduced, they were right around Glock's price and now they seem to be $100 higher. Is this to comp for the improvements to the design? Sig by any name is still a great gun. I...

Napoleon I am not impressed that Napoleon was French / Corsican. His ??? was kicked hard, twice. Nor am I impressed that France fought in the charnel house of World War II. Who didn't fight and have terrible losses? World War I was the perfect example of Euro idiocy. Let's not forget the...

Viva la France I recently thought about our French "allies" during the anniversary for D-Day. My thought was we should have never gone ashore to save that worthless country and it's cowardly people so their grandchildren could turn their backs on us. We should have gone straight up through...

Recruits with Glocks Quote ----------------- What is a joke is that some lowest common denominator cop gun that hasn't ever been adopted wholesale by any army that actually fights, is considered by anyone to the best combat sidearm going. ----------------- Our new recruits in the military...

Glock Buy the Glock in .40 either model 22 or 23. Ammo in .40 is coming down in price. If you get bored, you can then buy a .357 Sig barrel and a 9 mm conversion barrel from Lone Wolf and have the option of shooting multiple calibers. (Keep it loaded with .40 for self defense because it...

Revolvers rock too No argument that a good wheelgun is a good gun period. Also, they really don't have a manual safety. The Smith 8 shooter I saw in the gun rag in .357 would be welcome at my address anytime. I'm trying to imagine the same scenario I described with Sam Colt seeing a single...

Glox I think if today you could bring back Browning and put a top of the line Kimber .45 and a Glock on the table in front of him, he'd smile, pick up the Kimber and nod. Then he'd look at the Glock and say, "Hey, let me see that one." Sorry gents, I guess I need to get a reality check...

Sorry folks, I meant thumb safety not slide lock. A slide lock )or release) is too logical an idea to come from the government. I always heard the thumb safety was added later at the request of the military. It looks like more of an add on than the grip safety but who knows? Lately for my...

Still not convinced, sorry... I am still not convinced a manual safety will make my gun safer. There have been a lot of arguments submitted in this thread based on nostalgia related to the 1911 and the way we used to do it with such and such in this and that, etc, etc. I respect everyone and...

Manual safety NO I don't like an off switch for my handguns. Training may fool you into thinking you can deal with it but being human, there is always the chance you will leave the safety on when you need it the most. I like internal safeties a la Glock and chose the CZ 75 BD for the...

Off my list Much as I love this pistol, if it won't feed hollow points reliably, it's useless to me. Great bargain, but firing only FMJ in .45 isn't going to make my day. In all fairness, I've heard this is a problem with other handguns chambered in .45 ACP. Pico

CZ 75 and Kadet You can do this for less than $600 and shoot 9 and .22 with the same platform. I've heard very good things about the Kadet kit. Pico

My vote goes to the Beretta The price diff isn't as great as it used to be plus the resale potential more than makes up for it. Although I like the safety setup of the Taurus better than the Beretta's, I would still pay a little more and get the Beretta and get used to the weird safety system...

10 mm I've heard endorsments of how great the 10 mil is by two very different sources. One is my coworker Brent who praised his Glock 20 over his 1911 and .41 mag long before I was into shooting. Then I pick up Ted Nugent's book, "Gods, Guns, and Rock and Roll", and find out the G 20 is...