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Regardless of who Obama nominates the GOP have announced "they would not even shake hands with a Supreme Court nominee selected by the President of the United States." Some consider it petty but many consider it payback. Obama will NEVER get anybody appointed. The GOP should go through the...

Those are Obamas two choices. The good thing according to the news the Republicans are having none of it. They have said "Good Luck" in getting someone appointed. Since Obama seems more interested in freestyle rapping in the Rose Garden instead of actually running this country, Good. His whole...

Actually his son, "my first cousin once removed" is a Gary LEO so a private sale in Indiana wouldn't be a big issue. Actually my cousin will probably be moving to the west coast of Florida within a year or two and once he does so none of this really matters. That is the issue with IL denying his...

Glock_10mm it really is more of a State issue in Illinois and even though they do have a clemency procedure, to tell you the truth there are a lot of people in Illinois who are wondering if we have a Governor at all. For all effective purposes the State of Illinois is shut down. The first...

To echo what ilbob and Kingcreek wrote, in Illinois you have a better chance of winning the lottery then getting a FOID reinstated. From attorneys to psychiatrists the general rule is if the ISP denies or revokes your FOID card bring a shoebox full of money and you are NOT getting it back WHEN...

Those are very interesting links. I really mean that. The problem is that they are politicians. A politician will say anything to get into office, especially for the POTUS. Their positions are can change in a second once they are in office. You are listing all four, my belief is that only...

If a certain female candidate gets into office as POTUS she will go after gun rights Her husband did. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

This is the 2nd gun show thread since I joined THR. My opinion has and was that they are now a waste of time. You used to go and have fun, they mostly had things related to GUNS. The last few gun shows I have gone to are more flea markets. I'm talking about different shows in different states...

Sorry Kleanbore but I disagree. If I have made a decision to shoot it is not for "Psychological impact" The best way to neutralize a threat is death. Where did I get that idea? The military. The main purpose of firing a gun at someone is to kill them. This is not an anti 2nd amendment thing...

While I agree with that statement there is basic science that comes into play. The whole point of shooting someone is to incapacitate them. The best way to incapacitate someone is to kill them. The main purpose of firing a gun is to kill as ugly as that may seem. The best way to kill someone is...

I'll play nice. In 9mm which the FBI is getting back to, the ammo is........... The 9mm G2 Speer Gold Dot FBI. That is their duty round. You could also try the Federal Premium Law Enforcement Tactical P9HST2.

Actually that whole topic started on the 2nd post. Basically it goes to how the FBI has changed their weapons and ammo over the last 30 years after the shootout which LEAD to their testing. As for the ammo the FBI uses, try the FBI website. Different ammo for different calibers. Do you own...

"Mireles forced himself to his feet, drew his S&W 686, and lumbered toward the car, firing right-hand only with his shattered left arm hanging at his side. Five of his six shots connected solidly, two into one of the suspects and three into the other. Both slumped unconscious and dying and, at...

There are 4 or 5 totally different disagreements going on at the same time. This thread reminds me of being at my mother-in-laws house.

"The bullet tore through Platt’s arm, into his chest (the 115-grain Winchester Silvertip 9mm pierced his lung and stopped just short of his heart." Actually the Silvertip stopped millimeters short of his heart. The aluminum cased Silvertip was made for rapid expansion. It expanded when it hit...

I live in Chicagoland and you are absolutely 100% right. I live in the far western suburbs but most of the squad cars (there are a lot of SUV cruisers) have ARs or actually certain LEOs who are trained also have MP5s in their trunks. I know some Chicago officers and the violence is out of hand...

It is light-years ahead now mostly because of the FBIs ballistics testing. Compare a 80's Silvertip to a Gold Dot or Ranger T.

There were 14 men in 10 cars (Wikipedia says 11 but it's Wikipedia) looking for the Monte Carlo. Grogan and Dove saw the car. A decision was made to stop Platt and Matix. McNeil made a decision that led to the shootout and cost 2 FBI agents their lives. To this day that decision is considered by...

At the time it was great ammunition. The problem is it was an aluminum jacketed bullet that was made for rapid expansion on impact long before the FBI did ballistic testing. The FBI junked the Silvertip in 1987 because it didn't do what it was supposed to. Hitting an arm first was never taken...

Instead of quoting ACPs whole post I will just post below it. Special Agent Edmundo Mireles, Jr. was seriously injured and walked up to perps the car in an act of pure bravery and ended it with 5 hits from his S&W 686. It was such a public stain on the FBI that it led to a whole bunch of...