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From this side of a wide ocean it seems that a crucially important point has been missed here, and that is that not only did Levy act for Heller, but he planned the whole matter right from scratch, recruited the plaintiffs, ran the case all the way and funded the whole thing from his own money...

:what: Not for generations mate. The effective end of all that came with the adoption of the Statute of Westminster 1931. The Australia Act 1986 (supra.) only really cleared up the last vestiges. You made me laugh though :p

:rolleyes: Gun owners have elected two members of the NSW Parliament to represent our interests directly, on an explicit and overt gun-ownership platform. They are yet again getting runs on the board in chipping away at the gun laws with which we were saddled in a blaze of moral panic...

Well there was the Owen's successor the F1. I shot with this a bit in the very last years of its Australian service. It was good fun but long rendered obsolete for most purposes in Australian service by the M16A1, and later by the F88 Austeyr. There was also the Boys Anti-Tank Rifle. One of...

I have a Weaver K6 which I bought in about 1979. When I first got it I thought it was a great scope, and I've never had any problems with it, but the optical quality has been left behind by more modern scopes IMHO. In fact the Weaver is sitting on the shelf at the moment, surplus to...

Here's some figures: In 1942 an Owen cost the Australian government 6 pounds (Australian), which equated to $16.80 US at the then-prevailing exchange rate. An M3 in 1942 cost the US government $15.00 a unit. Not a big difference.

I've looked over all of them, and pulled them apart. Been to the factory where the OMCs were made too - in fact I was there today. The M3 cost about as much to produce actually, as did the Austen - the original Stens were cheaper, but really crude last-ditch weapons. None of these came anywhere...

Huh? The Owen was a simple design produced quickly and at exceedingly low cost by a factory not originally set up to make firearms, thus leaving Lithgow Small Arms Factory's production capacity for producing rifles. They cost the Australian government one tenth the price paid for Thompsons, and...

Well, only two were killed at Monash. There's been a few other mass murders though (three or more in one incident), including a couple of family murder-suicides done with car exhaust. Interestingly New Zealand had a spate of rampage shootings over roughly the same period from the 80s to mid 90s...

Again, this broad-brush slagging off at Australia for the words of our former leader doesn't really add to the debate. In any case, the US entered the war only as a result of itself being attacked, and at one point the US command was planning to sacrifice a large slab of Australia. Anyway...

Mate, before you tar us all with your broad brush, take note that the quote was from our (now former) Prime Minister, John "I hate guns" Howard. It is not a view universally held here, any more than every American endorses every view expressed by any of your politicians. He was wrong about...

Little by little the word is getting out into the MSM. Our much-vaunted buyback and stricter gun laws "have done nothing to reduce gun-related deaths". [Link] Surprise, surprise, surprise...:rolleyes:

In the Oz Army as recently as the late 1980s the doctrine with the GPMG (M60 at the time) included use from a tripod in both direct fire and indirect fire mode. The tripod had T&E wheels and a trigger bar, and in indirect fire mode we'd mount a C2 sight unit (same one as used on the 81mm mortar)...

Not the Owen! How can the "Digger's Darling" be a "gun gone wrong"? They worked brilliantly in the toughest conditions, and would keep on going filled with mud, sand or whatever. They outperformed the Thompson on every torture test too:neener:. I'll grant you the others though...

While Ned has been a bit of a folk hero here, I don't think he's such a good poster boy for the right to keep and bear arms. Even before the incident you describe he was a young bloke who'd had a number of arrests and served time in jail twice. The first conviction was for assault and for...

1911 I can understand that you'd get prickly if that was what I said, but it isn't even close. I don't support what happened here, far from it. The important point you've missed though is that the so-called "facts" about what happened here as set out in the OP are blatantly false. Worse...

Not much of a lesson if the "facts" are untrue. Worse still if that untruth is widely known among those who oppose us, as it certainly is, and if that untruth is thrown back at us, as it certainly has been. Rehashing such obviously false and widely debunked history isn't wisdom. There's a...

Yeah, right... Actually, I am not leaping to the defence of anything, except the facts. What happened here was a collossal waste of time and money and both an inconvenience and insult to people like me. However, the situation is not helped by the posting of this tired old nonsense all the...

Babarsac A peer-reviewed paper published in British Journal Of Criminology showing no significant effect on murder rates can be found here http://www.c-l-a-s-s.net/Baker-McPhedran.htm The Australian Institute of Criminology www.aic.gov.au is also a good source of papers on firearms and...

No. :rolleyes: If you read my post again, more carefully this time, you'll see that I am saying "nonsense" of that part from "It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia .... " - the part I extracted. So it would seem, unfortunately:rolleyes:. However there is in fact any amount...