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Why would they even make a gun that is so ugly?

But you know, the difference is that my final product, anyone can buy. Those clones are SBRs, mine is a Carbine. but I wasn't even serious anyways.... sheesh

okay! okay! It was just a thought! I'm sorry I even mentioned it! Sheesh! Kill a guy for dreamin' why don't ya!

lol, okay. Just a thought. A rambling worthless thought.

How much would you pay for a legal .40 that looks JUST like a UMP? or MP5 for all that matter. You know, if I could get this to work, I could buy a hi-point for 150, put maybe 100 in materials, and sell them for what? 8, 9 hundred dollars? I will be able to make it look JUST like a SMG, the...

Minnesota... or North Dakota if need be...

Question: If i put a collapsable stock and after collapsing it becomes less than 26".... is that a problem?

Fo sho! Thats the name of this game. If I didn't care about legality I'de just get one of these:evil: http://www.makosecurity.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Category_Code=Other&Product_Code=GLR17_440&Screen=PROD :evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil: but the idea is legal legal legal....

mya, I think a knife and some epoxy can clear that problem up anyways... I'll prolly make my own very custom furniture for it anyhow, and plan on moving the trigger up a bit, so the magwell may just protrude as an unused portion.

Tell me everything you know. Blueprints encouraged. Full Disclosure: I plan on moving the trigger and grip forward a few inches. Information that will help me know how that may or may not be possible is good.

Well as I thought about doing a bullpup for that AK nightmare, I was like "but just move the mag... and then.. um... use the magwell as a grip", i was freaking designing a pistol... what a moron ;-P anyways, yeah, I hope this hi=point stuff works well. If they retail at 220, I'll prolly be able...

Yeah, I have a glock 23, and I'm going to get the extra long 29 round clips here, and see if I can get the hi=point to take those, and move the action back so I can get rid of that stock and use the back of the action as a kind of faux 'stock'. I would stilllike to see one of those guns! I...

I wander how hard it would be to move the action and barrel back a few inches on a high-point... i really wanna look at those.... We are blizzarded in up here, and I can't get out of my parking lot :fire: I can't find blueprints or anything for the hi-point... GRRRRRR:fire:

Are high points unreliable? I've heard they are crap... along the uzi line, i think i could prolly get one for 7-8 hundred since I work at a gun store, and would be able to get a direct at cost one. But don't they jam something awful?

Heres the thing with me, okay? If you put a hundred trees in front of me, and ask me to get to the other end of the forrest, it'll never happen. Just wont. :evil: In any count, I've come this far, and now know quite a bit about AKs that I didn't before. Next stop, UZIs and High Points I...

. I dunno, does it? I can't find my book on cartriges, and don't know. How hard would it be to convert a UZI carbine to .40.... probably easier than a AK huh?

I can't find anything on how the UZI cycles and fires... I am very very VERY interested now.

I am interested.... an UZI would prolly be much easier to convert than an AK....

Kinda excited for this Hi-Point... any other .40 carbines you can think of?

Yeah, when I said "what could go wrong", i mean in a catastrophically mame or destroy me kinda way. Feed issues wont kill me, the gun blowing up would... Kinda excited for this Hi-Point.... if I can wrap my brain around it, it could be good....