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I think everybody has strayed far from the premise of the thread. Nitrogen wanted to know if the CX4 would be "at least passable for self defense uses". He's looking for a marginal reason to buy the gun. I say that the storm is at least passable for personal defense in the home. So buy it...

Brian Williams: You should work for Smith & Wesson dude. You're a concept genious.

They also make one on a 5 shot frame. Now that appeals to me. :evil:

444, while I aggree that weight is an issue, we are talking about home defense shotguns. The longest distance I ever intend on carrying that thing is about 35 feet (from one end of my ouse to the other.) This is a vastly different situation than all day concealed carry. I don't think I'll...

Seeing as how S&W have done away with them, I'd like to see a 3in barrelled fixed sighted K frame. Or any K frame for that matter.

A man much smarter than I once said "You can never carry too much ammo. Unless, you're on fire, or trying to swim." My 590 has 7 in the mag, 6 in the sidesaddle, and 4 in the speedfeed stock. I figure if I can't kill it with 17 rounds of buck and slugs I probably shouldn't have pissed it off...

I think the balsa wood reference was what is commonly refered to as hyperbole. :)

That cat M’Mburugu is a bad mother.... Hush yo mouf. I'm just talkin' 'bout M’Mburugu.

The "someone" you mentioned used to be called a gentleman. Good luck finding one nearby these days.

Old NFO, What application is that fore end designed for? I've read that the fore ends for the 500 won't work with the bayonet lug.

Keyholing? Probably 10 years of copper fouling. I'd bet a 55 gallon drum of elbow grease would solve their "accuracy" problem. :confused:

What is bench racing? The automotive version of what we do here.

Why not split the difference. A Glock G31 carries 15+1 rounds of .357SIG .357SIG round pushes a 125gr bullet to 1500fps. The only thing a .357SIG gives up to the .357Mag is performance in the higher weight ranges.

Great :rolleyes: With friends like that........

aroshi, Just a simple point of order, open carry is not prohibited in PA, only in Philly.

"You can't carry too much ammo... unless you're trying to swim... or on fire." -Shamelessly stolen from comp-tac.com I bought my SIG 229 because it was a good fit for me. I bought the 12rd mags because I couldn't think of a good reason to carry 11rds when I could carry 13rds. If you can...

I worked with a guy that said he "was a seal in nam". "Really?" I asked "Where at in nam." "Tet." He replied. "Tet?" "Yep." "That's near Fung Shue right?" "Yep." After a little math we discovered he was 13 years old in 1975.

Here's my advice. Flip a coin. Heads keep. Tails trade. Catch it in your right hand. Slap it down on the back of your left hand. Before you look which one were you hoping for. Trade or keep. do the one you were hoping for.

P229 .40 Straight :scrutiny:

Smoke, Learn this line well. "Boy, I've got a .45, a shovel, and a bag of lime. I can make you disappear." This line when delivered in a slow deliberate tone with a slight southern accent (or New York accent for that matter) will send the undesired critter running. :evil: