10/22 Bolt Release and Magazine Latch Conflict

[Captains1911]

I just installed a 10/22 auto bolt release (Volquartsen - Silver). After installing and inspecting it with the trigger housing separate from the rifle, and operating both the magazine release button and bolt release, I noticed that the magazine latch plunger (Part B-36) sometimes tends the to get stuck on the edge of the bolt release plate, binding up both controls. It almost seems like the plate of the bolt release needs to extend a little further forward to allow the chamfered edge of the magazine plunger to ride along the side of it rather than catching the front edge of it. This is a brand new rifle so perhaps it just needs to break in a little, or perhaps it will function fine once everything is assembled, but I was just curious if this was common or not. My other 10/22 with the factory bolt release doesn't do this.

 

[briansmithwins]

My other 10/22 with the factory bolt release doesn't do this.

I suspect you may have diagnosed the problem.

BSW

 

[Maverick223]

Never had that problem, but as mentioned above I think a new mag. release button (or lever if you choose to go that route) will solve your problem.

 

[CraigC]

How do the VQ and factory parts compare? The only difference should be the little heart-shaped hole.

 

[Maverick223]

How do the VQ and factory parts compare? The only difference should be the little heart-shaped hole.

Favorably. I have one installed and I'd say they are a wash WRT overall quality. The material removed (heart-shaped hole) from the stock pattern is the only noteworthy difference. I would be very surprised if the bolt-release is the problem.

 

[Captains1911]

Never had that problem, but as mentioned above I think a new mag. release button (or lever if you choose to go that route) will solve your problem.

I'm not sure an extended mag release would solve the problem, as I assume it would operate the plunger the same.

 

[Captains1911]

How do the VQ and factory parts compare? The only difference should be the little heart-shaped hole.

Good question, I will have to inspect them both side by side later on to see if there is any difference.

 

[Maverick223]

I'm not sure an extended mag release would solve the problem, as I assume it would operate the plunger the same.

It will, but I suspect that the magazine release is out of spec. (is it stock or a replacement part, it sounded as if it was a aftermarket part in your OP), so a replacement should get everything back in order, however considering that you have a duplicate rifle, it would be best to try swapping parts before investing in more parts.

 

[Captains1911]

It will, but I suspect that the magazine release is out of spec. (is it stock or a replacement part, it sounded as if it was a aftermarket part in your OP), so a replacement should get everything back in order, however considering that you have a duplicate rifle, it would be best to try swapping parts before investing in more parts.

The only part I replaced was the bolt release, the magazine release and plunger are factory.

 

[Maverick223]

That's an interesting development, definitely try swapping parts between the two carbines before replacing anything. The factory part could still be at fault, but that leads a bit of credence to the VQ bolt release being the issue (the new 10/22s have polymer trigger control parts, perhaps that changed the clearance and/or tolerance for certain parts). Either way, a simple swap could fix the entire issue.

 

[CraigC]

I have one installed and I'd say they are a wash WRT overall quality.

I meant his two specific parts. I've used the VQ release and it's a good one but I was wondering if maybe the one he received was a little funky.

Were it me, and I don't mind spending your money, I would return the VQ unit and get both the bolt release and mag release from Power Custom. I like both mucho better. The bolt release is longer and serrated, much easier to manipulate. Same for the mag release, although the VQ works well too. That said, I installed a VQ bolt release coupled with the factory extended mag release on the old man's rifle and it works fine. Perhaps yours has some flashing left from the mold???

 

[Captains1911]

UPDATE w/ PICS

After further inspection, there is a notable difference between the two parts on the edge that contacts the magazine release plunger. See in the photos how the edge of the auto bolt release (silver) that contacts the plunger is not cut straight like the factory part (black). You can see the wear marks on the bolt release from the plunger in the exact location where the edge is crooked. It doesn't look like much, but it seems to be making the difference, as I re-installed the factory part and could not duplicate the problem. It should also be noted that the auto release seems to function fine when everything is installed, so maybe it's not a problem, however I doubt the part is supposed to be shaped like this.

 

[Captains1911]

Anybody know if the VQ part should be shaped like this?

 

[Maverick223]

Mine is pretty crisp, and that example appears to have wear marks (mine also doesn't, but it's blued so it isn't a perfect comparison), so I think that may be your problem. Mine has been doing just fine, but, given your experience with the part you received, a replacement from Power Custom (or modifying the stock part yourself) may be a better option.

 

[fishshocker]

Dremel your old one to match the hole of the after market one.
Then sell or send back the new one. Check rimfirecentral.com for a tutorial.
Did mine, works awesome, free.

 

[David E]

Dremel your old one to match the hole of the after market one.
Then sell or send back the new one. Check rimfirecentral.com for a tutorial.
Did mine, works awesome, free.

If you already bought it, sell it or keep it, even if you modify your own. Don't return it for a refund. Do what's right.

 

[Captains1911]

If you already bought it, sell it or keep it, even if you modify your own. Don't return it for a refund. Do what's right.

Huh?

 

[David E]

Huh?

It's "poor form" to order something that's perfectly fine just so you can copy (rip off) their idea, then turn around and send it back for a refund.

But maybe that's just me.

 

[CraigC]

It's "poor form" to order something that's perfectly fine just so you can copy (rip off) their idea, then turn around and send it back for a refund.

Yes but he only has to copy it because.....wait for it........IT DOESN'T WORK! He didn't order it to copy, he ordered it to use. It doesn't work, not his fault but he will have to pay shipping to return the defective part.

 

[Captains1911]

It's "poor form" to order something that's perfectly fine just so you can copy (rip off) their idea, then turn around and send it back for a refund.

But maybe that's just me.

I didn't order it with the intent to "rip off" the design by copying it and returning it. I ordered the part to use, however it doesn't seem to function properly, so it's not "perfectly fine." The topic of this thread went right over your head. Good grief.

 

[Captains1911]

Back on topic. The part seems to function fine in my other 10/22, so I will leave it there. And in the of spirit of "poor form" i plan on using it as a template to modify the factory part in the other rifle.

 

[David E]

And in the of spirit of "poor form" i plan on using it as a template to modify the factory part in the other rifle.

You totally misunderstand the meaning of "poor form."

One example is when you rip off an idea without paying for it.

But paying for the idea and then utilizing the idea is making maximum use of money spent.

I am baffled why Ruger still makes that part the way they do.

 

[Maverick223]

Glad you got it worked out, and good luck with modifying the OEM part to match.