10/22 with 1:9 twist barrel...

[Domino]

Hi all,

I am currently considering buying a tactical innovations 1:9 twist barrel http://www.tacticalinc.com/threaded-twist-ruger-1022-barrel-p-558.html designed for use with Aguila 60g SSS ammunition. The SSS seems like it could perform quite well but it keyholes due to lack of stabilization in my standard 1:16 barrel. It is also very quite and I am considering this as an alternative to buying a threaded 1:16 and a suppressor. Anyone have any thoughts on this and how do you expect the 60g ammo to perform once stabilized? Its rated at 950 fps so I think it would be quite effective out to 50 yards or so. Any suggestions?

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

You're going to limit you rifle to one load only. I wouldn't do it.

 

[vicdotcom]

I agree, limiting yourself to one ammo can be bad, especially if the company goes under, gets bought out, or just stops that line of ammo.

 

[jerkface11]

The 1:9 twist doesn't limit you to one kind of ammo. It's FASTER so it will still shoot the lighter bullets.

 

[ThomasT]

I ask the same question before i bought my 1/9 twist barrel from the same people. I also ask if the 1/9 would shoot regular weight 22s and everyone assured me that it will do just fine. So you don't have to worry about being limited to one kind of ammo.

I have not had a chance to shoot my barrel so can't give you a report yet. I bought the barrel right before the hail storms hit north texas. I am an insurance adjuster and have been busier than a one legged man in an a$$ kicking contest. I have also bought 4-5 other guns that i can't seem to find time to shoot.

As far as performance goes i have shot the SS60 grainers into phone books in my garage. They will shoot through a 2" thick phone book and another 1/2" into the second book. They are not very loud either. This was from a 22" barrel. It is one more alternative load that makes your gun a little more versatile.

 

[rangerruck]

It is actually the opposite of what you think; becuase it starts out subsonic, it does not have a lot of wind sheer and atmospherice pressure trying to kill it as fast; and is a vey long bullet, it is actually still going faster at 100, than most of your other 22 bullets. And that 60 grain chunk of lead can do some serious damage. Now then, it doesn't open up so to speak, and neither does it fragment or blow apart, what it does, is hit , REALLY REALLY HARD, and it also can turn, and make a big wound channel. Penetration is also tops here.

 

[Domino]

Hey Ratshooter, you are going to have to let me know how that barrel works out for you I would be very interested in hearing a detailed range report on your experiences, good luck. I think you are on to something rangerruck, these 60g pills might be more effective than people think, and while they will have considerable drop the velocity and trajectory, they might still have enough umph to kill at 100 yards or soo. My biggest concern is accuracy and its ability to shoot other types of ammo. Thanks for all your replies so far!

 

[rangerruck]

I have an old remmy speedmaster, that apparently has a fast bbl twist, to stabilize for short, long and long rifle, they must have made them a faster twist, for the shorts, and cb's and the like. Anyway, it will stabilize the 60 grainers.
For a whim , while out at the range one day, I decided to shoot at some of the wood frame pieces, to see what damage would be done. wood ranged from 1/2 inch thick to 4x4's. On the 1/2 inch wood, It would blow out huge chunky holes in the back. On the 4x4's, it would go all the way through, no probs.

 

[jerkface11]

Here is how the SSS performs in ballistic gel http://www.brassfetcher.com/Aguila Sniper SubSonic 60 grain lead round nose.html
I'd say that's pretty impressive.

 

[rangerruck]

all those other 22's are from that same site, called various 22 ammo, it is all the usually suspects, but the aguila 60 grainers, went all the way through, and the bullet was not found. Which to me means, it still had velocity when exiting the gel, and they could not find it , becuase it flew out of the area where they had the block set up!!!! awesome.

 

[vicdotcom]

Here is how the SSS performs in ballistic gel http://www.brassfetcher.com/Aguila%2...nd nose.html
I'd say that's pretty impressive

all those other 22's are from that same site, called various 22 ammo, it is all the usually suspects, but the aguila 60 grainers, went all the way through, and the bullet was not found. Which to me means, it still had velocity when exiting the gel, and they could not find it , becuase it flew out of the area where they had the block set up!!!! awesome.

I just looked at the pictures of the gelshots. It might just be me, but the shot that left the block might have had a little "help".

It looks like it entered close to the entry path of the bullet right under it. Look near the top of the block at the 7' mark. There is another bullet there. If you follow that path back to the entry point, it overlaps the bullet path that left the gelblock.

Maybe that is why the bullet had enough energy to go all the way through. It may have had less resistance with the weakened gel after entry. Might also explain why it went upwards and out also?

Not saying it isnt a good round and I dont know how wide the gelblock was. Just that the pictures may not fully depict all the information.
Vic

 

[jjohnson]

Let's have the Range Report

I'd be reluctant to "convert" a rifle to a single load, but since this is 10/22, I'd keep the take-off barrel in case it didn't satisfy me or the SSS ammo became unavailable. As experiments go, why not? Worst case is you wind up putting the old barrel back on... or go 17 Mach 2 for the next experiment.

As mentioned, though - by all means, do report back from the range, I'm sure there's a bunch of us interested.