100yd .22LR shoot + ammo tests (pics/outcome)

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"(Obviously mostly sub-sonic due to the trans-sonic issue before 100 yards.)"

Could someone please explain this statement to me? I honestly have no idea what it means, is describing, or the problems it refers to.

Thanks.
 
"A contributing factor is the transition of even a high-velocity cartridge projectile from supersonic to subsonic within 100 yards (91 m). As the bullet slows, the shock wave caused by supersonic travel overtakes the bullet and can disrupt its flight path, causing minor but measurable inaccuracy."

Thats basically it. Its about aerodynamics while trans-sonic that will cause the bullet to lose accuracy.

Thats why if you start off out of the muzzle sub-sonic, it will stay that way and maintain the same airflow characteristics all the way to the target.

Depending on the load, .22lr's usually go transonic in the area of 70 to 80 yards out. Next time i go to the range ill show some mini-mags which are super accurate at 50 yards, but not so much at 100 and that will really show what its talking about.
 
I really ought to drive over to Markham park, I haven't been there in about 6 years. It's a very nice range, do they still have alot of range officers?
 
In addition, while in school shooting competitively, our team used the CCI green tag ammo exclusively and I was always impressed with it.



One thing to remember on all rim fires, each rifle will have a favorite ammo.

The way to find out your particular rifles favorite, is to buy as many different types of ammo as you can find (and afford) in single boxes and try them in your rifle. Once you have found what it prefers, buy as much as you can afford in bulk.
 
ill show some mini-mags which are super accurate at 50 yards, but not so much at 100 and that will really show what its talking about.

That must be why I'm having a problem, I have an Anschutz that will shoot 1/2" groups at 50 yards all day long but doesn't group well at all at 100 yards.:banghead:
 
The remington is strange (to me), i use the subsonic and bulk pack with great success in my Savage MKII.
Me too. My 10/22 shoots the federal gold medal best, but the Rem subsonic is the best bulk pack ammo for me at 100yds.
 
That's nice but, I WANT 200. Its like shooting a 1000yd match for free!

Borrow a CZ 452 Lux. It's amazing what you can hit at 200 yards with iron sights. :cool:
 
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Thanks, Gotime! Great post, great, clear pics, great info! I give it 5 golden bullets! I want to do something similar, but involving expansion on rotting (non-edible) meat, that has bones, not gelatin.
 
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Just for the fun of it one day at the range I started shooting my 10/22 at the 100 yard range. At the time I was using Wolf Match Target in my Ruger Mk.II and SIG Trailside, so I figured why not give it a try in the rifle. For years my 10/22 always gave the best results with CCI MiniMags, but the accuracy I was getting with the Wolf was amazing. For an added bonus, reliability was 100%, with absolutely zero problems with feed issues, light strikes, failure to feed, or failure to eject. Very affordable target ammo when you can find it.
 
Many of us never clean a .22 barrel. (until the accuracy falls off, which can be years) Much more info on this can be found at Rimfire Central.

Oops, we're not supposed to clean the rimfire barrels? I've been cleaning mine like a normal centerfire rifle after every range trip.

Is there a preference for lead or copper plated stuff? I've only shot lead so far and cleaned with Hoppes/Kroil.

I've also had mixed luck with Gold Medal Match. My firing pin doesn't seem to make them want to go boom about 20% of the time. I've procured an extra firing pin though and I've modified the striking surface a bit. Maybe it'll strike a tad deeper now. I don't know what the ideal rimfire indentation should look like on a shell (from a 10/22).
 
I think the Wolf is accurate, but I seem to get more "flyers" than with Federal Champion Match (not Gold Medal) which I can't seem to find anywhere anymore.
 
Try the remington "thunderbolt" i think it is. Considerably better consistency. Unfortunately it's been a long time since i've shot .22's - but in the past i've found it to be pretty reliable. Think i've only had a 2 or 3 mis-fires out of thousands of rounds, and they were all from the same box of 50. (Chalking that up to bad batch).
 
Try cci

CCI Velocitors NEVER fail me. I do, however, clean my piece regularly, almost religiously. Not one misfire to date throughout two years of regular shooting, so I do recommend these rounds when misfires simply won't cut-it. Cleanliness is next to you know what. I also feel Velocitors give a decided accuracy advantage at 100 yards over ANYTHING else. cliffy
 
I shoot rem subsonics out of my MK II and regularly get 1.5 inch groups at 100.

Eley Target has produced sub one inch groups at 100 as well.

But i shoot mostly rem subsonic since its 4 bucks per 100 as opposed to 5 bucks per 50
 
Oops, we're not supposed to clean the rimfire barrels? I've been cleaning mine like a normal centerfire rifle after every range trip.

Generally speaking, a .22 bullet leaves a bit of wax in the barrel after each shot, and each subsequent bullet scrapes a bit out and leaves a bit of its own. Thus the condition of the bore stays essentially the same for hundreds if not thousands of shots.

So at least with lead bullets, it's rarely necessary to clean the bore. Many shooters don't do it at all. Others after every few thousand rounds, once a year, or some other arbitrary schedule. I would suggest bench testing the gun every 500-1000 rounds. If accuracy falls off at some point, cleaning may be indicated.

If you pay close attention, you may notice that a gun might go a bit wild after being cleaned. .22s are somewhat notorious for needing a few -- or even a few dozen -- rounds before "settling down". This is because the condition of the bore is changing between each shot, until that waxy equilibrium is restored.

Actions, bolts, etc. do need to be cleaned more often, or they will begin to malfunction. I will generally do this every thousand rounds or so, depending upon action type and clean/dirty ammo.

I don't know how much if any of this applies to copper washed/plated .22, as I have never seen any reason to use it.

HTH!
 
great shooting! I can remimber getting groups similar to your wolf with the CCI mini mags. My 10-22 is now setup with a red dot 1x for yard vermin. I need to put my scope back on it and try to get some accuracy testing done again. I have a Green Mountain 16 inch barrel. and I usually shoot the subsonic remington to dispatch limb rats in the yard. I have not had bad groups like yours though using that stuff. It may be a bad lot???
 
I'll also add that Remington subsonic shoots very, very accurately out of my Savage MkIIBTVS.
 
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