1016 yards Idaho Black Bear hunting...

Status
Not open for further replies.
I do look at this kind of hunting and that is said as a joke . No differentce if it some jerk water fool at 50 yards that is just shooting hair are a ex sniper or even worse, want'a be at 1000 yards shoot'n at hair. Just because he can hit it dam sure down make him a hunter. I wonder if the great bear killer harvested his trophy and lets all see just how great it is. Woops maybe its only 100lb yearling. This would be like shooting a kid standing all by hisself with a play gun in his hand at 1000yds look'n all bad. Dam good shot, he got him.

Is there a translator for this? The only thing I can make out for sure, is that he didn't watch the whole video and see that they did harvest the bear and it was a nice sized one.

Maybe the take home message is, "Dam[sic] good shot, he got him," but, still it is unclear.

-Sam
 
Everybody is different and has a different system of values, but this shot was too far.

And the winner for the most self-contradictory sentence goes to....

-Sam
 
This guy is an awesome shooter and is very skilled. Some say they wont take the shot because they dont think its ethical or because they arent as skilled, but you cant pass your ethics on to someone else. Some may not call this hunting, but IMO, this is more challenging than leasing property, placing a feeder and a tree stand 50yds away and shooting deer as they feed from it.

This goes back to my earlier point: What if this was some video of a redneck kid with a WalMart 12 ga flattening a button buck at 100 yds? That shot would probably be LESS certain and LESS controlled for that shooter's skill and equipment levels than this one was, and yet no one here would instantly jump to allegations that it was unethical.

There are a few things we don't know about this shot. But there is a lot of info that can be gleaned from carefully watching the whole video about what these guys did and the effort that went into it.

Any shot, with any gun, at any range, under hunting conditions could go wrong and wound an animal. There is a certain element of risk in that. An ethical hunter practices at the ranges he will shoot, under as close to the same conditions as he is likely to encounter, and knows to some degree of certitude what he can do with his gun. I get the distinct impression that this wasn't the first 1,000 yd. shot these guys tried to take, but rather, that they'd done considerably more homework and practice than even a very ethical average hunter taking a 300 yd. shot. And were using FAR better equipment.

The shot was more extreme than most folks are used to. The equipment is more exotic and (presumably) more expensive than most folks would have or choose to afford. Unfortunately that very predictably turns into envy and disparagement, and absurd character assassination. (How poor is it that multiple people had to ask if they even used the bear or if they just left it lie? Sad.)

It's perfectly o.k. to say, "Nice shot! Well done! That's beyond my capabilities and I applaud their skill." That's enough.

-Sam
 
Last edited:
~Z I get tired some times and do not check my spelling enough. Spell checker??? Where?? I find what i want on a computer and thats about it. To old to learn anymore. Drinking and smokeing or drugs maybe your problem but not mine ,don't touch any. You seem to speak with knowlage of the subject. The 1000yard shooter still sucks, seen this video crap with deer and find they are waiting for anything they can claim as game.
 
The 1000yard shooter still sucks, seen this video crap with deer and find they are waiting for anything they can claim as game.

So sitting on a hill waiting to see a legal, in-season game animal that you have a tag for is unethical?

Picking out an animal through a scope and choosing whether or not to shoot it is unethical?

"Anything they can claim as game?" These blankety-blank so-and-so's had the NERVE to "claim as game" an above-average bear during BEAR season, of all things!

That's almost as bad as those guys who will go out during "Upland Game Season" and shoot bobwhite quail, cottontail rabbit, crows, and ring-necked pheasant, INDESCRIMINATELY! Amazing what some folks will "claim" is game. (Wonder how they ever fooled the game commission into agreeing with them...?)

-Sam
 
Last edited:
Everybody is different and has a different system of values, but this shot was too far.

And the winner for the most self-contradictory sentence goes to...
Maybe I phrased this wrong... Everybody has a different set of values and we should respect that people live by them, BUT some things are fundamentally irresponsible. I am 5' 11'', 164 pounds. If I drink 8 beers in 30 minutes then drive home from my friends house, I SHOULD BE CRITICIZED for my actions. This shot should be discouraged because it is too far to make an ethical shot.

There is nothing wrong with this style of hunting. The shot is no different than a shot at an unsuspecting deer at 300 yards. The shot itself was irresponsible. I have a very very hard time believing this guy could hit a paper plate 10/10 times at that distance with that rifle. That is get up, pull out the rifle and make a first shot hit on a paper plate.

You don't have to prove that you can make this shot on a living animal. People do this on paper all the time. Even prairie dogs are ok targets to me because shots will be fatal almost always with a caliber that large.

HB
 
BUT some things are fundamentally irresponsible. I am 5' 11'', 164 pounds. If I drink 8 beers in 30 minutes then drive home from my friends house,
Now, that's the second time you've equated a completely legal hunting activity, with the only variable being distance, to an illegal activity involving becoming highly physically and mentally impaired, operating a motor vehicle and endangering the lives of multiple humans (the driver, any passengers and innocent 3rd parties).

I can buy that "extreme range" hunting shots can be unethical if it involves increased rick to wounding/losing game. I don' see the example you cite as even being close. If it was...you could start a thread about the morality of driving drunk and have it be as heatedly debated as this one.

I'd bet money these guys can hit the proverbial paper plate at 1000yds with a higher hit percentage than the average hunter at 400 (maybe even 300). Especially if the average hunter's shot was unknown distance in between 3-400 yds (they have to estimate range) and the shot for these guys was 950-1050 yds unknown distance (like a real hunting situation).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top