10mm Super Redhawk

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IMO this will end up doing a disservice to the 10mm cartridge. When it tanks in the market people will say “look, there’s no market for 10mm revolvers” and be more reluctant to release ones that actually make sense.

If they had done a GP-100 I would have been all over it. Or maybe if this was an eight shot. But making a six-shot in a gun that normally holds 454 Casull or 44 magnum makes no sense to me.

Hard pass.
 
The Redhawk weighs a bit less than the Super Redhawk and I like the design and styling of the Redhawk more. Years ago I used my brother's Redhawk in .44 Magnum with the 5.5" barrel and just liked the balance and the way it handled.
For comparable barrel lengths and chamberings, the weight is the same. The Super just looks beefier.
 
I have no idea of the negative opinions some have of this gun.

Just what is wrong with it?? The longer barrel will get all the velocity from the 10mm round, and it will be strong enough for thousands of rounds of shooting on the SBH frame.

Would make a great woods gun from everything to white tail to coon. If you don't like the heavy frame, get over it. It's built RUGER TUFF and for those high volume shooters and reloaders, it will be a huge benefit over more fragile designs.
 
Just what is wrong with it??
Because it's a huge sixgun in a relatively small cartridge. Hell, the RH/SRH are overbult for the .44Mag and allow 50,000psi loads in the .45Colt. Same reason I don't care for .357 Redhawks or even .41 Redhawks. Not to mention that I try to avoid a rimless cartridge in a revolver every chance I get, with few exceptions.
 
Another benefit to the SRH design is the ability to mount long range optics right out of the box.

This will be a long range game changer for the 10mm auto cartridge. Also the weight of the gun will tame recoil to pleasant levels, minimizing shooter fatigue.

Personally, I think this is one of the coolest ideas Ruger has come up with for their DA revolver line in years.
 
I'm not entirely sure what the point would be of chambering a revolver in this caliber would be considering the calibers already out there. Don't get me wrong, I love the 10mm cartridge. Been shooting an original Delta Elite for years.
 
Put me down as another "not sure why this exists" vote.

I really like the Ruger Super Redhawk platform. It is big enough, and heavy enough, that .44 Magnum is pretty pleasant to shoot. When people want a .44 magnum that will be "just for fun as a range gun", I always explain how much more comfortable it is to shoot .44 Magnum in a Super Redhawk than a Smith & Wesson N-frame. The extra weight makes a big difference. With that said, I just don't know why someone would want a platform this large for a round that is significantly less powerful than the .44. It would make a little more sense if it was an 8 shot, but not much more.
 
Just what is wrong with it?
Well..... this.
Because it's a huge sixgun in a relatively small cartridge. Hell, the RH/SRH are overbult for the .44Mag and allow 50,000psi loads in the .45Colt. Same reason I don't care for .357 Redhawks or even .41 Redhawks. Not to mention that I try to avoid a rimless cartridge in a revolver every chance I get, with few exceptions.
 
Another benefit to the SRH design is the ability to mount long range optics right out of the box.
Well yeah, but that's true of the SRH over any non optic ready semi auto. The clambering isn't really that much of an advantage as the 44 and 41 mags can easily surpass the 10mm ballistically in the exact same platform.
 
I am not opposed to more 10mm Autos but this seems to be curious to me. The 10mm Auto makes more sense in an auto. Having a 10mm as heavy as the Redhawk and limited to 6 rounds makes even less sense than a 9 shot 10mm in a 1911 when compared to a polymer framed EAA or Glock holding 14 or 15 rounds in the magazine.
 
The Redhawk weighs a bit less than the Super Redhawk and I like the design and styling of the Redhawk more. Years ago I used my brother's Redhawk in .44 Magnum with the 5.5" barrel and just liked the balance and the way it handled.
Not disagreeing with your choice, but I did find this interesting:
http://www.ruger.com/products/redhawk/specSheets/5001.html
MODEL NUMBER: 5001 CALIBER: 44 REM MAG
Grips Hardwood
Front Sight Ramp
Barrel Length 7.50"
Capacity 6
Rear Sight Adjustable
Overall Length 13"
Weight 54 oz.
Suggested Retail $1079.00

http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawkStandard/specSheets/5501.html
MODEL NUMBER: 5501 CALIBER: 44 REM MAG
Grip Hogue® Tamer™ Monogrip®
Front Sight Ramp
Barrel Length 7.50"
Capacity 6
Rear Sight Adjustable
Overall Length 13"
Weight 53 oz.
Suggested Retail $1159.00
Probably down to the grips, but still - an attempted apples to apples comparison (lowest model number, same caliber, same barrel length) yielded a lighter SRH than Redhawk.

(and, naturally, the 10mm 6.5" SRH goes back up to 54oz - wood grips and less steel removed)
 
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I wasn't doing an apples to apples comparison. I'm not interested in a Super Redhawk with a 7.5" barrel (53 ounces), or even a 6.5" barrel (52 ounces). The Redhawk I was comparing it to is the Model 5004 with the 5.5' barrel. It weighs in at 49 ounces. So to me the Super Redhawk would be slightly heavier and I still don't care for it's design.
 
I have no idea of the negative opinions some have of this gun.

Just what is wrong with it?? The longer barrel will get all the velocity from the 10mm round, and it will be strong enough for thousands of rounds of shooting on the SBH frame.

Would make a great woods gun from everything to white tail to coon. If you don't like the heavy frame, get over it. It's built RUGER TUFF and for those high volume shooters and reloaders, it will be a huge benefit over more fragile designs.

It would be equally tough and long lasting when chambered for a number of existing revolver cartridges that easily outperform the 10mm auto without the inherent issues involved in putting rimless cases in revolvers...although moon clips are one of the few plusses of such designs.

You simply don’t need such a massive gun to shoot 10mm out of. If I’m going to drop $800+ on a 10mm it’s going to be a magazine fed auto. If I’m going to spend it on a hulking big revolver it’s not going to be chambered in such a relatively weak cartridge.

I have made a prediction that is about 100% opposite of yours. I predict this will be a market failure in short order and that few will be sold. We shall see who is the better fortune teller.
 
It would be equally tough and long lasting when chambered for a number of existing revolver cartridges that easily outperform the 10mm auto without the inherent issues involved in putting rimless cases in revolvers...although moon clips are one of the few plusses of such designs.

True and the Redhawk and Super Redhawk are already chambered in a number of "appropriate" cartridges for their size.

I'm sure Ruger is satisfying a niche market, adding some new variations to keep their expanded production capabilities busy and once discontinue will have created an instant collector's item.

My one and only Redhawk is chambered for 45 Colt. I can't say I've seen folks lamenting that Ruger should have not chambered the Redhawk in 45 Colt because it is not as capable as 454 Casull or other wrist snapping magnum calibers.

If you are a fan of 10mm, why not?

Maybe once the 10mm production has run its course, Ruger will come out with some other interesting chambering.
 
My one and only Redhawk is chambered for 45 Colt. I can't say I've seen folks lamenting that Ruger should have not chambered the Redhawk in 45 Colt because it is not as capable as 454 Casull or other wrist snapping magnum calibers.

If you are a fan of 10mm, why not?

There’s a difference between a big revolver chambered in a big revolver cartridge vs a big revolver chambered in a non-revolver cartridge. The limit on the 45 Colt has always been the gun, at least since the advent of the modern solid head case. Nobody laments they don’t offer a Super Redhawk in 22LR either, but I suspect that’s because nobody ever imagined anyone was considering such a thing.

If someone had quizzed me about what new gun Ruger was contemplating, I would have made a LOT of other guesses before I guessed this one.

Why not? Because I would never shoot it. And I don’t have that kind of cash lying around just to buy an oddity.

It’s not for me. But if someone else wants one then more power to them. I think it’s a niche product at best.
 
My 5.5" SRH weighs less than my 5.5 RH, both 45 cal. My 357mag Redhawks weigh more than my 7.5" SRH's... The weight complaint is either visually driven misconception, an exaggeration of imprecise published specs, a difference in grips, barrel length, or bore diameter, or simply an excuse to prefer the traditionally styled Redhawk over the "unique" Super Redhawk.

I'm not one to stand against pistol cartridges, or even rifle cartridges, chambered in revolvers, as I've thoroughly enjoyed 44-40, 32-20, 9mm, 45-70, 30-30, 22 Hornet, and 17 HMR revolvers, but I do believe in a responsible balance between weight and horsepower. The 10mm might stand tall among the munchkins in pistol land, but doesn't even make it out of the qualifying heats when compared against revolver cartridges.

I still don't care for it's design.

When it comes down to this subjective opinion, then by extension, the 454C and 480R Super Redhawks "don't make any sense" to those folks - it's a style issue, not really weight or size, although it's convenient for them to use that as an excuse. If the style of the SRH doesn't suit a guy, fine, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the 10mm.

It seems like more and more guys are trying to hunt with their 10mm autos, and the SRH certainly is better suited for such than a Glock 20 or 1911. Ruger's running their 10mm SR1911, so the SRH is a pairing in their cartridge line up. Guys buy Glock 20's and 10mm 1911's with hunting in mind, which doesn't make sense to any of us in the real world who have ever hunted with handguns either, so giving those guys another option obviously made sense to someone in product development.

Does a short barreled, birdshead grip 44mag make sense in the market? Does an 8 shot, snub nosed, heavyweight 357mag make sense? Does an overpriced piston driven AR-15? A 3" adjustable sight polymer frame 38spcl? On the surface, from a practical standpoint, not really... But all of them have sold relatively well. The 10mm SRH makes as little, or as much sense as any of these.
 
^^^ Well said!


If someone had quizzed me about what new gun Ruger was contemplating, I would have made a LOT of other guesses before I guessed this one.
I never would've even guessed. Even if the list was 100 guns long. I hope I'm wrong and they sell a bunch of them, fanning the flames of interest in both the 10mm and Super Redhawk but somehow don't see that happening. It's just the wrong platform for the cartridge. Put it in the GP and I'm in.
 
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