12 gauge pistol.

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  1. d2wing

    d2wing Member

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    A couple days ago I saw an article about a twelve gauge double barrel pistol. I guess a modern Howdah pistol. Years ago I saw cheap versions in .410 gauge. A younger version of myself may have been interest but now I wouldn't shoot anything like that if you paid me.
    I am wondering what you guys think.
     
  2. jmohme

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    If you are referring to the Diablo, it is actually a black powder 12 ga.
    I think it is a very beautiful firearm, but no, I don't think I would want to shoot it. Well, maybe shoot it once. :)

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  3. George P

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    But then what would you do with the other barrel?.......:D
     
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  4. d2wing

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    I did not realize it was black powder. Interesting.
     
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    There are a couple of videos that refer to a single shot 12 gauge pistol as a Rossi brand. It has a six inch barrel and looks like it kicks like a mule.
     
  7. Reinz

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    Shooting black powder rounds are much easier on the body than smokeless. You will be pleasantly surprised.
     
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  8. jmohme

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    I have heard the same.
     
  9. WestKentucky

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    I would love to have one. Basically a double barreled and oversized caplock. I want to see it in the movies too!!! Just imagine a bad guy hitting a train where the engineer meets him face to face with two gaping barrels and a smug little grin...
     
  10. DocRock

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    I have seen that the manufacturer recommends 1/2oz of shot load. That's 217 grs in .729 cal, nice big bore. Two and a half drams powder and that's about the same load as a Walker shooting conicals. Not for the dainty by any means, but not as brutal as one might expect.
     
  11. MTNSTRYDER

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    Ouch still want one
     
  12. ugaarguy

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    If I remember correctly, manufacturers can get away with .410 bore that also chambers .45 Colt in pistols, because it's technically a .45 Colt with a long chamber that also happens to be able to handle a .410 shot shell. Going to a larger gauge turns them into NFA firearms, which is what killed Taurus' concept of a Judge revolver slightly up-sized to 28 gauge.
     
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    An old John Wayne movie... I think it was called "El Dorado," featured a guy with a SS shotgun cut down to pistol size. Definitely an item that would have interested the ATF. But i imagine it was a blanked-off prop.
     
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    Kinda like the one the trucker had in Fast and Furious. I have wanted one of those for years but I’m not adding $200 tax stamps to a nice classic double just to chop it up, and the rough ones are too rough to start with.
     
  15. TRX

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    I own one. It's a 10" 12 gauge AOW with a tax stamp.

    I wanted it really really bad, had it built to spec - it's a ringer for the one Mel Gibson carried in "Mad Max", and when the papers came back and I got it to the range... it wasn't what I was hoping for.

    The main problem is that shotgun shells aren't loaded to work in a 10" barrel, and the short barrels magnify differences between shells. What you'd consider an "ordinary" shell would give a beachball-sized fireball (fun!) and enough recoil for the trigger guard or forward trigger to cut my index finger. (ouch!) My first firearm was a .44 Magnum; I still view that amount of recoil as "normal for a pistol." The boomer has as much more recoil than the .44 as the .44 does over, say, a .32. Plus the sloping grip makes it hard to hold on to; it sldes back in my hand, exaggerating the "cuts from the trigger guard" problem. It is serious No Fun to shoot.

    I eventually found some shells marked "rabbit load" that had much less recoil, down below .44 even. But with the short barrels, the shot would bounce off a cardboard box at fifteen feet and lay on the ground in front of it. Not stretching the truth any there.

    It's a safe queen now; I haven't shot it in years.

    Now, from the vantage of time to think about it, for someone who was set up to load their own shotgun shells (I'm not, and don't plan to) the ammo problem could be probably be solved by handloading.

    A conventional pistol grip instead of the "flintlock style" cut-down shotgun grip would be a better fix, but the receiver used on mine has long tangs for the shotgun wrist, the stub of which forms the grip. I considered cutting the tangs off and making a better grip, but there's just air back there then; a proper job would involve welding some metal in there to anchor the grip to. Several local welders judged that the frame is a casting, and in their opinion the welds would eventually crack given the recoil load involved.

    I'm not trying to talk you out of it, but unless you set up to load your own shells, you might not want to shoot it much. You might not even care about shooting it; it's certainly an attention-getter just laying there on the bench, but it would be nice to be able to toss some shot downrange without the obligatory blood sacrifice.
     
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  16. sgt127

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    Well, technically I own a 12 GA pistol. 74D3E596-AE07-48CD-8133-E922C32911C3.jpeg

    Ithaca Stakeout. ATF calls it an AOW.
    Carried it wedged between the seats when we were looking for bad guys.

    It does get people’s attention.
     
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    I know it's Hollywood movie bulldinky, but I always kinda liked the double barrel that Jerry Reed carried in the movie Gator.
    Nice to see the trigger discipline.

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