180 grain nosler partitions and IMR-4895 load question (30-06)

[bhhacker]

I just lucked into several hundred 180 grain nosler partitions. I have an abundance of imr-4895 and am looking to make it work if possible. I have a lyman reloading manual that recommends a generic 180 grain bullet but i just want to make sure that starting at the bottom of the load data and working up isnt going to kill me using that generic data and nosler website doesnt have the powder listed.

Have any of you guys used this setup? I originally got a bunch of the powder for my semi auto BAR in 30-06 but developing more of a whopper for a 30-06 bolt gun i just got. Thank you for your time!

 

[LoonWulf]

I've used 4895 with 180s quite a bit, tho not the partitions. I do not believe the partion bullet needs any special handling and base loads should be perfectly safe.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I usually use H4350 in my 30-06 ammo with bullets 165gr and heavier.

I do have M1 loads using IMR4895 but that won't help you.

I have the Nosler Reloading Guide #8 so I looked for data on the 175/180gr Partition with IMR4895 but they do not list 4895 at all past 165gr bullets.

You have the Lyman data.

Hornady #10 doesn't list 4895 with a 180gr bullet either.

Speer #15 does list 4895 with their three 180gr bullets. They list the range of IMR4895 as 43.0gr to 47.0gr using a CCI-200 primer.

Good luck, hope this helps.

 

[Laphroaig]

I load 180 partitions in my -06 with H4831 since it gave me the best accuracy. IMR4895 might not give the best results, but you never know until you try. I always did my load workup with cheaper 180's, so I feel confident that data for another 180 bullet will get you started safely.

Once I decided on a load I zeroed with the partitions and went hunting.

 

[jmr40]

There should be no problems, but there are many much better powder choices for that bullet weight in 30-06. My manuals show a max load only developing 2500 fps. I can get 2600 fps from my 308 with 180's. There are other powder choices that should get you 2800-2900 fps with 180's.

 

[entropy]

My Dad's first moose load used that combination, but I don't know the charge weight. He settled on 200 grain Partitions instead, different powder, but I can't remember what, it was 27 years ago.

 

[GooseGestapo]

Lee #2 lists 39.1gr as starting, for 2,291fps.
Max at 43.5gr for 2,520fps at 50,000cup.

This is older DuPont published data, reprinted by Lee.

Current Hodgdon data (hodgdonreloading.com) gives 45.0gr as start for 2,550fps; 48.0gr max for 2,680fps, at 56,000PSI.
Bullet is a Sierra 180gr BoatTail.

I’d load three rounds:
38.4 (Lee dipper #2.8)
42.6 (Lee 3.1)
46.7 (Lee 3.4)
Shoot, in that order, note appearance of brass, function of rifle, poi on target. If you have a chronograph, note velocity. If 46.7 gives flattened primers, use the lower load. Only your rifle and component match can tell you which data most closely correlates.
2,500fps with a 180gr Partition will easily kill anything in N.America.
As others stated, other powders are better, but I’m sure you’ll find a decent load.

 

[old heeler]

One of my 30-06 I used 180gr Partition with H-4350. Hodgdon has loading data http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/node

 

[cougar1717]

Looking at Hodgdon's data, yes it will work, meaning that there is data for IMR4895 with a 180gr bullet that you can use to work up a load. That said, this combination is not what most would consider ideal for 30-06, unless the intent is to download and attain 308Win performance out of a 30-06.

This combo may be a beneficial load for the BAR as long as it cycles.

Like it has been stated above, many people use -4350, -4831, or similar slower powders with 180's in 30-06. Most use these in bolt actions and have great success finding a fast, accurate hunting load - myself included.

 

[Slamfire]

I guess people are not familiar with IMR 4895 and the 30-06 cartridge. The powder was the service rifle powder during WW2 for the 30-06 and was used in the National Match ammunition which used a 173 FMJBT. Bullet weight varied by 2 grains so some bullets were 175.



The common match load was a 173/174 with 47.0 grains IMR 4895. This will shoot very well all the way out to 600 yards, because I have done it. With a 180, I might cut it to 46.5. Forty seven grains would be a bit close to a maximum load because IMR web data is between 45.0 and 48.0 grains with a 180 grain bullet. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle

Suggestions for IMR/H4350 are good if you want more velocity, but since you already have IMR 4895, and the cartridge will shoot very well with bullets of this weight, try it. It is not like a 180 grain bullet traveling at 2650 fps is going to bounce off the hide of a deer.

 

[frankmako]

for 30 caliber I have found that imr 4895 is the powder to use. second is varget.

 

[Nature Boy]

Last year I worked up a .30-06 hunting load using 180g Sierra ProHunters and RL22. Worked pretty good.

 

[LNF150]

This is out of an OLD hornady volumn II. Primer they list at the beginning of the section is Federal 210 with the case being FA59NM. lol (that's old). I doesn't even list IMR or H, but I loaded for a Rem. 760 back in college. Tried 180 gr. nbt's using this load data and IMR 4895; I think I was using the lowest load weight listed, 44.8 grains. Adjusted the c.o.a.l length out to a hair off the lands, fuggg! I almost drove the second bullet through the first one's hole at a 100 yds. Killed one whitetail with that load and never shot that load at a living thing ever again. Left a softball size exit hole.

But, your partitions will work wayyy better for the job.