1911 vs. Glock problems per capita

Status
Not open for further replies.
N

neviander

Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2008
Messages
547
Location
Kilgore, TX
I got to thinking about this at work the other day. I think I've read a thread SOMEWHERE on just about any make or model of autoloader going BOOM instead of BANG and as my preferences started to glean more toward Glocks for utter reliability, a fairly obvious fact stuck it's head up in my mind, there are way more 1911s out there than there are Glocks.

It seems to me that most of the issues the 1911 has had with unreliability has been due to the litany of copy cat manufacturers out there and either their sloppy configuration or lack of quality control standards; just not staying to Browning's original design.

Whereas Glock has been on the scene for what...not even 20 years? No doubt, Glock has their act together when it comes to going bang every time.

Does anyone have any numbers as to how many of each have been produced since their original inception?
 
no but the glock boom thing is primarily with one cartridge 40s&w and prior to glock retooling the chamber
1911's have inherent problems by design yes they can be worked out
 
The problem is not poor quality but from making the 1911 more target oriented instead of the mil spec it once was. Modern 1911s are fitted so damn tight right out of the box that some break in is required. My 1911s have several thousand rounds through them now, and they are every bit as reliable as my Glocks.

Glocks are designed with looser tolerances and generally run from the get go. They won't win any accuracy contests, but thats not what they were designed to do. You never see Glock ads garaunted 1" moa at 50yds, you do see that with 1911's though. Another readily apparent difference in design thoughts is the trigger, the Glocks stack, same pull every time = duty weapon. 1911, buttery smooth = more conduscive to target shooting.

Now with that being said this is not a slam in anyway on either. I own several models of each. I carry a Glock by choice as my duty weapon. I dont care if is banged against a brick wall, smashed and scratched between my holster and center console, or if I work out in the rain.
 
this is not a slam in anyway on either
Click to expand...

My point exactly, I'm not necessarily trying to hoist either up on a pedestal; just trying to get some facts straight.

Honestly, I've decided my next purchase will be an EAA Witness Elite match, which I've heard is right next to the 1911 in terms of accuracy and performance.

But of course the 1911, me being a true American, holds a special place in my heart. So I thought my perspective of this particular issue was worth mentioning.
 
1911's have inherent problems by design
Click to expand...
Such as?
It seems to me that most of the issues the 1911 has had with unreliability has been due to the litany of copy cat manufacturers out there and either their sloppy configuration or lack of quality control standards; just not staying to Browning's original design.

Whereas Glock has been on the scene for what...not even 20 years? No doubt, Glock has their act together when it comes to going bang every time.
Click to expand...
A good observation. Plus no one is making Glock copies and calling them Glocks.
 
When Glock has been around long enough that folks WANT to copy it, then we can compare.

Until then everyone else is trying to improve on it, the Glock.

Or accept that there is only the Colt 1911A1 government Colt 45acp, Everything else is either a derivative, like the Commander and the Gold Cup and such. Or they are just copies. Some very expensive and usually a marginally better quality, most not as good, or out of spec.

Not really much to talk about.

Go figure.

Fred
 
When Glock has been around long enough that folks WANT to copy it, then we can compare.
Click to expand...
Ever heard of the S&W Sigma? ;)

As for the original post....

Glock definitely has the advantage.....
Only Glock makes a Glock.
But many companies make the 1911....so there are bound to be more lemons.
 
I guess I must be lucky, I've own 6 1911( all colts, 3 of which are delta elites)

I have only had one prob with them andit was from a used and abused delta elite that was litterly a rust bucket( bought it just for the frame) Other wise not a single issue. Hell other I've not even really had probs with colt mags.
 
Dare I? A thread with "1911 vs Glock" in the title? No, I must not ...

Oh, I can not resist ...

Why, oh why, do people insist upon comparing Glocks with 1911s? Apples with oranges? Do we really even care anymore, or are we too jaded?
It seems to me that most of the issues the 1911 has had with unreliability has been due to the litany of copy cat manufacturers out there and either their sloppy configuration or lack of quality control standards; just not staying to Browning's original design.
Click to expand...
Um, well, yeah ... Have we not established this by now?
No doubt, Glock has their act together when it comes to going bang every time.
Click to expand...
Ah, the Kool-Aid goes down sweeter with each swig ...

The equine is deceased. Cease flogging its corpse!


You can enjoy shooting 1911s; you can carry 1911s. You can enjoy shooting Glocks; you can carry a Glock. You can enjoy shooting both, alternate carrying each ... You can hate one, or hate the other ... You can appreciate both for their positive qualities.

Old Dog out.
 
1911's have inherent problems by design yes they can be worked out
Click to expand...

Uh...I don't think so. What they have these days is manufacturing issues by people who either can't or won't stick to the proper specs...but if the design was bad, it would have gone the way of the dinosaur long before most of us were born.
 
To reiterate my original question, does anyone have any sort of actual numbers, general numbers even, of how many of each have been produced? I really did not mean to flog the long rotted corpse of a horse that is 1911 vs. Glock. I just wanted some validity to my idea.

Sorry to drag Black Beauty from her grave for one last whippin'.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top