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19th Century Assault Weapon Roars to Life in 2019

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Johnm1, Jul 4, 2019.

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    It looks like you are standing so close to the target that the muzzle blast is moving the target stand. And if thats a revolver with self contained cartridges wouldn't that be a 19th century gun?
     
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    Yeah. Fat fingers and poor proof reading. 19th century. I'll fix the op.

    And yes, I'm stabilizing the I pad with my gun hand. These are BB Caps. Primer powered with no powder. It shoots 6" high at 10' notice in the single shot video one of the adjacent BB's falls out as I'm cocking the gun.
     
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    Anybody got a clue how to edit a title? Also, none of the emoticons I put in are showing up.

    Edit - found it.
     
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    So, maybe it 'Meows' back to life and the hail of gunfire could be mistaken for a swarm of Gnats! The OP lost a lot of the sarcasm without the emoticons.
     
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    If you get a chance post some pictures of the gun. I would like to see what you are shooting a little better. Old guns are cool.
     
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    Windows XP will only get me a still picture of a target with black pasters all over. How about a still fo the gun?
     
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    Hopkins and Allen XL No. 1. 22 short Black Powder.


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    And I have small hands.

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    Love those old-timey mouse guns. I'd like to someday get a NAA Earl, just because I like the looks.
     
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    Hopkins and Allen reorganized in 1898. I can't tie-down the manufacture date much better than between 1870 and 1898.
    The gun fired flawlessly. The ammunition on the other hand had some issues. The video firing seven shots was the only cylinder that I was able to fire all seven shots and the projectiles all come out the end of the barrel. There isn't much purchase to hold that little BB in place and a lot of the BB's would fall out of their case before they were shot. I'm thinking of placing a bit of super glue on them just to hold them in place until it is time to shoot. I extracted this one frame from one of the videos. This capture was just after cocking the gun but before firing it . VideoCapture_20190704-102049.jpg
     
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    Thats neat. Thanks for posting.:thumbup:
     
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    The BB caps were the safest ammunition I could buy. J&G had them for almost a reasonable amount. Certainly better than anywhere else. But it wasn't the only choice. Current 22 short CB caps weren't an option. They do contain a small amount of smokeless powder. The amount of smokeless was probably too small to make a difference but I was unwilling to risk it. Its small an no less than 120 years old. Pulling bullets from either CB caps or regular 22 shorts leaves you with a primed empty case that could be filled with black powder. Except pulling the bullet destroys the bullet and you still need to seat and crimp the bullet. I still haven't found a source for either Healed 22 bullets or a kinetic bullet puller small enough to pull 22 rim fire bullets.

    But there are molds and a crimp tool made for the task.

    http://22lrreloader.com/store

    This provides new bullets and a way to crimp the finished round. It actually costs about what 100 BB caps costs. Even though I have the BB caps I may still go this route.
     
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    Now I see the gun..... Thank you.... nice collectible!
     
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    There isn't much data on specific models and production dates. Heck, H&A mixed model names over time so nothing is 'absolute'. The pin release latch was patented in 1871 and the name of the company changed in the 1898 reorganization. Fun to shoot. Not very accurate with the BB Caps and I have to figure out how to secure the BB's better than the manufacturer did. I suppose I could shoot it single shot. I'm leaning towards reloading shorts with black powder to see if it can do what did when it was new. I was surprised at the apparent recoil powered only by the primer. It was a lot more than I expected. It might not be too terrible of a performer with a full case of black powder or appropriate BP substitute. In the end, it shoots reliably for a gun that is no less than 120 years old. Not a bad looker too.

    Total Recall - I'm a relative dinosaur technology wise, but didn't Windows XP die in the last century?
     
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