I have been reveiwing passed entries on 20 vs 12 recoil. Several comments were made that the 20 had more recoil than a 12. If the same model of shotgun is used, and the load is 1 1/4 oz in each, is the collective opinion still the 20 kicks harder. I wish to take up turkey hunting this spring and recoil is a factor due to an injury. Thanks, Byron
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20 vs 12 recoil
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Dave McCracken
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Byron, kick's not cut and dried. Two shotguns firing same weight loads at the same velocity will kick the same if....
The weight's the same.
The weight's distributed the same.IOW, balance affects kick a bit.
The pad is the same size, thickness, material and so forth.
An oz load out of Frankenstein is a creampuff. Medium sized pad, total weight about 7 lbs. Currently, about 14 3/4" LOP.
The 20 gauge YE 870 here runs about 4 oz less, IIRC, and the kick from a 1 oz load is stiff. About 13" LOP.
Some of that difference is weight. Some is LOP, the weight lies out a bit further with Frankenstein and that cuts muzzle rise. Some is due to the pad on the 20 being MUCH smaller, less surface area.
12s run heavier than 20s, all else equal. In your shoes, I'd consider a 12 for turkey, and if kick's that big a prob, spring for a gas auto. The better of these cut kick maybe 40%.
If a new auto is beyond your means, look for a used 1100, 11-87, Winchester X-1 or 2, or the newer Berettas.
HTH....
The weight's the same.
The weight's distributed the same.IOW, balance affects kick a bit.
The pad is the same size, thickness, material and so forth.
An oz load out of Frankenstein is a creampuff. Medium sized pad, total weight about 7 lbs. Currently, about 14 3/4" LOP.
The 20 gauge YE 870 here runs about 4 oz less, IIRC, and the kick from a 1 oz load is stiff. About 13" LOP.
Some of that difference is weight. Some is LOP, the weight lies out a bit further with Frankenstein and that cuts muzzle rise. Some is due to the pad on the 20 being MUCH smaller, less surface area.
12s run heavier than 20s, all else equal. In your shoes, I'd consider a 12 for turkey, and if kick's that big a prob, spring for a gas auto. The better of these cut kick maybe 40%.
If a new auto is beyond your means, look for a used 1100, 11-87, Winchester X-1 or 2, or the newer Berettas.
HTH....
Andrew Wyatt
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it's all in the pad and the fit. A pad that's radiused to fit in the pocket will work better than one that's flat, as there's more surface area in contact with the stock, spreading out the recoil forces. shooting 174 grain ammo at 2400, my dad's mauser beats me up way more than my enfield does. why? because the mauser stock is actually too wide, and only bears on my collar bone and shoulder joint. I have a single shot 20 with a very good pachmayr pad (properly radiused) and brenneke slugs and birdshot are downright nice to shoot. (better than ounce and an eighth loads out of my 500, which weighs a pound or so more)
Often shooters tiring of the 12 gauge recoil will go to the 20 because they think it will kick less. However, because the 20s are often lighter guns they are just as stern to the shoulder as the larger gauge.
All else being equal, a one ounce 20 and a one ounce 12 in a gun of the same weight and configuration will kick about the same. But all else is rarely equal.
All else being equal, a one ounce 20 and a one ounce 12 in a gun of the same weight and configuration will kick about the same. But all else is rarely equal.
rebbryan
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i have not shot my new 870 12 guage yet, but i have shot a 20 gauge. the 20 gauge felt like it had less recoil than my .22, i could've shot it all day w/ no problem whatsoever
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