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200m groups

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by tikkat3, Jan 5, 2007.

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  1. tikkat3

    tikkat3 Member

    Sep 7, 2006
    What sort of groups would you expect to achieve with .223 at 200m?

    I normally zero at 100m and do not often punch paper at longer distances, although foxes are regularly taken at 150-250m. I am just interested in hearing how tight the groups can be expected to be at 200m.
  2. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 24, 2002
    Fort Collins, CO, USA.
    They should be roughly 2x the size in inches you see at 100 meters.

    So for a 1 MOA rifle/ammo combination, you should see approximately 2" groups at 200 meters, provided wind conditions are favorable.
  3. alucard0822

    alucard0822 Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    Westminster, MD
    normally you can approximate what group size can be had by multiplying your known group size at one yardage say 1"@100yds or meters, would be 1MOA or 1 minute of angle and would = 2"@200, 5"@500 10"@1000, of course factors like wind, bullet weight, twist rate, velocity and consistency affect accuracy and of course how calm your hold is. At longer distences it is necessary to know this and the ballistics for that particular load to adjust your scope properly. if the bullet will drop 6"@400yds when sighted in at 100yds and your scope has 1/4 moa clicks you would adjust them up 6, because at 400 yds 1/4moa=1" and 800yds=2" I always enjoy competing against myself at longer ranges, and if you reload you can make drastic improvement in a relatively short amount of time, I can normally get a dcm ar-15 to group about 4"at 200m with iron sights at my best, but my scoped savage 10fp can do it in 1", but it has taken me about 5 years of constant weekly practice to be able to get to this point
  4. hagar

    hagar member

    Dec 2, 2004
    Columbia, SC
    A good flattop AR with a good scope should shoot between 1 and 1.5 inches at 200 yards with match ammo. I would be extremely disappointed if mine shoots more than an inch at 200.
  5. taliv

    taliv Moderator

    Oct 23, 2004
    a full value wind at only 5mph will probably move a 55 grainer 2.75" at 200m.

    i'd be careful setting expectations
  6. JAMES77257

    JAMES77257 Member

    Jan 1, 2006
    It depends on the rifle.

    My toys @ 200 yds. no wind:

    Mini 14 WWB- 4.5"

    16" AR hvy brl 40 gr v-max hand load- 1.25"

    24' AR hvy brl custom 40 gr v-max hand load- .75"

    Stock Ruger VT 40 gr Nosler BT hand load- .68"
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