.223 lethality

[tcsnake]

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Note that this thread was not posted for some nefarious purpose I am mearly working on building a Scout style rifle (based on Jeff coopers design which I hold in the highest regards) THIS RIFLE DESIGN WAS INTENDED FROM THE BEGINNING TO KILL HUMAN COMBATANTS ON A BATTLEFIELD.

My question can be rephrased for those of you who find it a bit too obscure.

simply put: will this rifle/cartridge combination be effective in combat at ranges of less than 100 yards. I have heard that the original scout-rifle design calls for a round of no less than .30 Cal dimensions.

 

[HorseSoldier]

Cooper's original idea was that the Scout rifle should be capable of taking down animals up to some weight threshold I don't recall (400 lbs?), which is part of the reason why he specified a 0.30" caliber. (The other was that, despite his major contributions to practical pistol work, he was a hopelessly clueless dinosaur when it came to long guns.)

If you try to build a "combat scout" rifle (quotes because such a creature in bolt action was obsolete in the 1930s), I don't see why 5.56mm doesn't let you be lethal in the range band Cooper envisioned for the Scout with its low powered optics.

 

[DIM]

Here is ram weight approximate 200 lbs shot 100 yards away with 65 gr SGK, its lethal I would conclude.
http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/001820/1820886.jpg

 

[Hangingrock]

I can tell you this from the perspective of a 19 year old Marine in Vietnam. Witnessed center mass hits to antagonist .45ACP-1911, M1-Carbine, and M14- 7.62mm were not a show stopper. Before going down our antagonist hosed us with a fragmentation grenade and contents of a “Burp Gun”. A Gunnery Sgt veteran of Korea said it was a (PPS).

My lasting impression there is no guaranties. Is the .223 lethal yes and no? Is the .30 lethal yes and no?

 

[kestak]

Greetings,

Rule #2: Double tap

If rule #2 cannot be repeated, go to rule #1: good cardio.

Thank you

 

[Art Eatman]

tcsnake, how many times must you be told that the .223 will indeed be lethal at 100 yards?

Enough.