.223 Mini Mauser to 6.8MM SPC?

[ryoushi]

I have a line on a Charles Daley Mini Mauser action in .223. What I really want is a handy little boltie chambered in that spankin new 6.8MM SPC round. All the conversions I've heard about have used the 7.62 x 39MM. Will the .223 bolt face wok with the 6.8MM SPC?

 

[Cosmoline]

It has been done with the CZ 527, but with the 7.62 action and magazine, NOT the .223. The .223 mags would likely be too small to function.

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ammunition/remington_0303/

Having begun life as a CZ Model 527 in 7.62x39mm, the only portion of the rifle retained was the action. After the barrel was replaced by a stainless, semiheavy 22-inch match barrel by Mike Rock of Rock Creek Barrels, the bolt was modified to feed and eject the 6.8mm. No modification of the magazine was necessary.

 

[asknight]

That's interesting that the magazine may not work. As far as I know, everyone who is running a 6.8 AR is using regular old .223 AR magazines which function just fine in the AR platform.

I should also note that rather than completely altering a rather highly sought after CD MM carbine, that you should check out the Remington 700 Tactical in 6.8SPC before doing so.

My advice is to buy what you want. A purpose-built 6.8SPC bolt action, not something else requiring a complete overhaul or rebuild.

 

[only1asterisk]

The bolt on you rifle can be opened up and the new barrel installed by any competent gunsmith. The magazine will need some work, but shouldn’t be a big deal. While not very cost effective, it will be what you want.

I don't know of anyone running an AR in 6.8 with 5.56 magazines. At best, they may feed a handful of rounds.

David

 

[ryoushi]

The bolt on you rifle can be opened up and the new barrel installed by any competent gunsmith. The magazine will need some work, but shouldn’t be a big deal. While not very cost effective, it will be what you want.

I don't know of anyone running an AR in 6.8 with 5.56 magazines. At best, they may feed a handful of rounds.

Thank you for the information. I noticed that the 7.62MM actions have a bigger boltface plus the magazine is about 1/10" longer than the .223 actions. The thing that I like about the .223 action is it's left handed.

That's interesting that the magazine may not work. As far as I know, everyone who is running a 6.8 AR is using regular old .223 AR magazines which function just fine in the AR platform.

I should also note that rather than completely altering a rather highly sought after CD MM carbine, that you should check out the Remington 700 Tactical in 6.8SPC before doing so.

My advice is to buy what you want. A purpose-built 6.8SPC bolt action, not something else requiring a complete overhaul or rebuild.As to the others who have shared their opinion I'd say it was not asked for or needed

First off I was asking for information not opinions or advice. Second I can't find a listing of a Model 700 tactical or otherwise in 6.8MM SPC. Third this is an action I'm talking about not a "highly sought after CD MM carbine". I'm looking at an action in the white, without a barrell.

I agree that you should always buy what you want as opposed to something you don't want and the day somebody makes a left handed MM carbine in 6.8MM SPC I'll do just that.

 

[asknight]

Gah, try to help someone out and they're rude to you.

Ok, ryoushi, to answer the only question you posed in your post. The answer is NO, it won't work without modification. There, now I won't be bothered to answer any more of your questions.

 

[ryoushi]

Ok, ryoushi, to answer the only question you posed in your post. The answer is NO, it won't work without modification. There, now I won't be bothered to answer any more of your questions.

I didn't ask if it would work without modification, of course it won't work without modification. It needs a barrell for one thing. Also your "answers" on the Model 700 Tactical in 6.8 SPC along with the unaltered AR15 Mags was simply not true. Thanks for taking the time to give me your unsolicited opinions and advice without paying much attention to my original post however.

 

[asknight]

Sounds to me like you knew the answer to your own question before you posed it. I'm done with this thread.

 

[ryoushi]

I have to apologize. I was rude and wrong. It seems there is a model 700 available in 6.8 SPC. It's a big varmit style rig not really what I had in mind, I knew Remington makes the model 7 in that roundas well but it's right hand only. Again I'm sorry for being so abrupt and sarcastic.

I have since spoken with a gunsmith about my ideas and he told me he wouldn't be comfortable modifying the .223 boltface and suggested I go with the larger 7.62X 39 boltface (not available in left hand). I know Remington also now distributedtes the Zastava (Charlles Daley) mini mauser as their model 799 so maybe one day we will see a left handed version in 6.8MM SPC.
I'm really sold on this new round however and have decided to build up an M4 style carbine chambered in 6.8mm SPC.

 

[gringobaba]

A custom is never worth in $$ what you put in it, but if it's what you want, no reason not to go for it. Just think long and hard and ask yourself can you afford to take a big loss on the resale price if it turns out less cool when you've paid for it than you expected it to be.

Suggestion on the gunsmith: find another gunsmith. Long gun shipping is usually $20 each way, and there are a lot of gunsmiths in the country. Probably some of them specialize in the Mini-Mauser. You might ask in the gunsmithing forum over on Accurate Reloading (as always, use the search first), since several memebers there have played with the Mini Mauser action. Opening a bolt face is done all the time. While there could be some special gotchas with the Mini-Mauser, it sounds more likely it's just work your gunsmith doesn't want or isn't experienced in. Altering the magazine might or might not be a bigger problem.

Suggestion on the action: if the price is favorable and affordable, and if you ever expecct to build a custom on a .223-length action, buy it regardless of whether or not you plan to use it now. There aren't too many small left-hand actions out there for less than princely sums, and Remington shows no interest in importing any more of the left-hand Mini-Mausers (or any bare actions either, from what I read).