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223 tracers on Prairie Dogs

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by moellermd, Mar 31, 2006.

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  1. moellermd

    moellermd Member

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    Call me weird, but I saw Wideners and 1200 55gr 223 tracers for $70. I was thinking it would provide an interesting twist to P-Dog hunting. Has any one ever loaded these? What about accuracy and barrel wear? I quess it could be a new meaning to red mist.
     
  2. dakotasin

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    the first time you started the prairie on fire, the rancher is likely to ask you to leave.

    not prairie dog hunting, it is prairie dog shooting, and it always takes place on very, very dry land... though sage does smell nice when its on fire.
     
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    You will probably start the grass on fire. But another fun thing to do is to shoot a 2 liter bottle filled with your favorite flamable substance. If the first shot doesn't ignite it, the second one will. (Big fireball since the gas is in small particles in the air.) I advise you be about 200+ yards away when you do this and be sure that the ground will not burn. (Winter is a great time to do this.) Don't do it on a windy day either because the results are unpredictable.
     
  4. moellermd

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    Oh come on guys you make it sound like we live in a desert. However, I do remember starting some nice fires at Ft Carson, CO shooting tracers out of SAWs. We have hunted the same ground in north central SD for over 25 years and I suppose it would be a bad idea to ruin the family name.

    Dakota... I suppose it is not drinking tea but sipping tea.:)
     
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    I Have Seen Them Cause Fire In Green, Green, Green Pasture!

    They burn HOT! I have seen them fire up some of the most green grasses of mid-summer. I would NOT do it. The cost and the potential for charges are simply not worth it. The real question becomes are they sufficiently accurate? My experience is that the accuracy was HORRIDLY lacking.

    Doc2005
     
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    I use them, load them and have them.
    I just used my standard 55gr bullet load I didn't change any thing because there tracer.
    There tons of fun, even more when you have them for a pistol.
    Just don't burn any thing that dosen't belong to you.
    The biggest let down ever I had with them was when I shot a propane canister with one and nothing happened. I hit it perfect too, I hit the bottem of the tank where the metal base is welded on and it riped a all most 2 inch hole through the tank. Just a white puff.
    They burn for about 6 seconds, I have shot plenty of them up in the air back home in Maine. You have to do 2 things, 1 know there arn't any houses for several miles down range (shoot them out over the sea) and 2 make sure there are no planes in the sky.
    I load them for 223 and 5.7x28mm(FN).
    They can rust your barrel a if you don't clean it after ward, or you can shoot some normal bullets to burn out the tracer crap left in the barrel..
     
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    new mexico- along with much of the southwest- is currently experiencing a drought, so i'd strongly recommend against it hereabouts
     
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    If you want to blow there guts all over the state you could load up some Speer 33gr TNT HP's. Hold them to 3400fps. They are lightly constructed.
    Even at around 2400fps out of a FiveseveN pistol they frag into all most nothing. They have 0 penertration at that speed and they don't even go through a milk jug of water.
    I can't even think what they would if you added a few 100 fps to that at impact. You fire them at 3400 they slow to around 2800-2900fps at 200yd when they hit I'm guessing. There won't be any thing left.
     
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    I don't know where you live but in AZ according to A.R.S 17-301 and 17-307
    "An individual shall not use or possess any of the folllowing while taking wildlife.
    #2. Tracer, armor piercing, or full jacketed ammunition designed for military use.
    Not to mention the fact that if/when you set our tinder dry country on fire it will get lot of media coverage.
     
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    You're better off using a frangible core bullet such as the Ballistic tip or V-Max. Much better results upon impact!
     
  11. YellowLab

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    One genious was shooting tracers into the COAL backstop. Not only was that a dumb thing to do.. but the 'range' is just short of 100 yards... he couldn't figure why they 'weren't lighting'...... I just sighed and ignored bubba and his tracers.
     
  12. Roadkill

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    I loaded up about a hundred 30.06 tracers for fun but am am scared to shoot them anywhere. I guess they'll come in useful someday.

    rk
     
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    Propane has a relatively narrow range in which it will burn, inasmuch as it's mixed with air. I heard this from the guy who installed my 300 gal tank where I lived in 'Bama.
    I haven't tried it, and I'm more familiar with the effect as regards to 100LL, but as I recall, the range for propane is much narrower than for avgas.
     
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    Moeller- where are you from? I live in mobridge on the river. Ive shot tracer at night hunting coyotes and it actually works well. Theres snow on the ground so you dont have to worry about fires.

    SW
     
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