.224/.225

[Texanreloader]

Afternoon all! Ok to start I have a box of .224 55gr Hornady FMJ bullets. I had a friend give me a 6lb bag of what looked like the same. Weighed and measured ("and you have been found wanting" sorry, Knights Tale. Favorite movie) they look to be coming in around 53.5gr's and measure in at .225. What have I got? I really don't understand why is there a .224 and a .225 for a .223 So confused. Posting a couple pictures. Hornady at the top.

 

[Laphroaig]

.224 is the standard for .22 caliber centerfire bores. Hornady is probably pumping those out as fast as possible and QA/QC is commensurate with the product. Someone will notice that someday and make an adjustment to the die. Until then its not going to matter much.

 

[Jim Watson]

A six pound bag. Is it claimed to be of Hornady manufacture? They don't look the same to me.
They are not the same as your known Hornady in any respect, they differ in diameter, weight, cannelure placement, and nose shape. They may shoot as well, but I would not mix them with the real Hornadys.

 

[FLIGHT762]

The bullets your friend gave you are very likely NOT Hornady. There are lots of manufacturers of the .224" 55 Gr. FMJ bullets that replicate the old USGI M-193 bullet.

Being .225" isn't going to hurt anything, but keep therm separate from your other Hornady bullets and just use them up. The M-193 bullets are blasting bullets and are not going to be match type bullet accurate. You were given a gift, use them up and have a good time with them.

 

[Varminterror]

Those aren’t the same bullet.

 

[AJC1]

I'm betting someone got a deal on factory seconds. The cavity in one looks like the botail was not formed on that bullet.

 

[Texanreloader]

A six pound bag. Is it claimed to be of Hornady manufacture? They don't look the same to me.
They are not the same as your known Hornady in any respect, they differ in diameter, weight, cannelure placement, and nose shape. They may shoot as well, but I would not mix them with the real Hornadys.

I guess I was not real clear with that sorry, it was just a big ole bag of bullets. No markings at all on the bag.

 

[Texanreloader]

The bullets your friend gave you are very likely NOT Hornady. There are lots of manufacturers of the .224" 55 Gr. FMJ bullets that replicate the old USGI M-193 bullet.

Being .225" isn't going to hurt anything, but keep therm separate from your other Hornady bullets and just use them up. The M-193 bullets are blasting bullets and are not going to be match type bullet accurate. You were given a gift, use them up and have a good time with them.

yeah sorry, was only using the Hornady as a reference to the ones I got. What is the reason for making a .225? Do I load them like I would the .224?

 

[FLIGHT762]

What I would do is take the load you are using for the Hornady bullets and reduce the powder charge 2 grains or so and do and test some to see if there's any higher pressures with the .225" bullets, if no issues, then try some with the same powder charge.

I'm assuming you have loaded the Hornady bullets?

 

[bullseye308]

.225/.225 is kinda like tomato/tomoto or potato/pototo. It’s all good.


Wait till you realize a .355, .356, .357 bullet can work in 380, 9mm, 38 spl, & 357 pretty much interchangeably. Talk about ind blowing.

 

[Remington1911]

Don't forget the long lost .228, I so want one.

 

[ballman6711]

6 pounds of 55gr bullets is a lot of bullets. I haven't done the math but I would think you've got about 6-800 bullets there. Do a new load workup just for these bullets and enjoy them for what they are, and be sure to buy your friend lunch.

chris

 

[edwardware]

What have I got?

You have a bag of perfectly good bullets for any .224 bore caliber with an appropriate twist, like .223Rem, 5.56x45, .222Rem, .22/250, etc. You also have a need to learn about the difference between nominal and actual measurements.

Weighed and measured ("and you have been found wanting". . .

Book of Daniel, Chapter 5.

 

[ballman6711]

Just did the math, at 53.5gr you should have 785 bullets. If they all weigh 53.4 you'll have a few more.

chris

 

[Texanreloader]

What I would do is take the load you are using for the Hornady bullets and reduce the powder charge 2 grains or so and do and test some to see if there's any higher pressures with the .225" bullets, if no issues, then try some with the same powder charge.

I'm assuming you have loaded the Hornady bullets?

Yes.I have. No issues. but still need somebody to explain why one would buy a .225?? What does that .001 do that the .224 doesn't.

.225/.225 is kinda like tomato/tomoto or potato/pototo. It’s all good.


Wait till you realize a .355, .356, .357 bullet can work in 380, 9mm, 38 spl, & 357 pretty much interchangeably. Talk about ind blowing.

Yeah I have seen that and don't understand the purpose of it.

 

[Texanreloader]

You have a bag of perfectly good bullets for any .224 bore caliber with an appropriate twist, like .223Rem, 5.56x45, .222Rem, .22/250, etc. You also have a need to learn about the difference between nominal and actual measurements.
I understand the concept when it comes to lumber, but it seems if I measure w/calipers and it measures .225 then to me it is .225.

Book of Daniel, Chapter 5.

Knights Tale was more entertaining

 

[Texanreloader]

Just did the math, at 53.5gr you should have 785 bullets. If they all weigh 53.4 you'll have a few more.

chris

Lol! You da man! My scale only does 5lbs and it errored out, could be 7lbs, 6.3lbs, etc.

 

[ballman6711]

5lbs x 7000gr / 53.4gr = 655.4

So at 5lbs you still have enough to do a new load work up.

Sorry, but I can't answer your question as to why a .225 bullet is needed.

chris

 

[P51D]

yeah sorry, was only using the Hornady as a reference to the ones I got. What is the reason for making a .225? Do I load them like I would the .224?

I seriously doubt they were intended to be .225. The tooling became worn, and the bullet diameter creeped up. At least that's my guess.