hammerklavier
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I have wondered that too, why are we not seeing more foreign.22? Personally, I haven't seen any.
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sniper69
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Only foreign ammo I have seen is Lapua (Midas or SK brand??) and another brand that was from Switzerland (at another place). Both were in stock more than a month ago and were match ammo (with a price to match).
I saw in a Cheaper Than Dirt catalog that they had some of the BrassMAXX 22 in a can, similar to the 9mm I've picked up at Walmart - I've wondered why Walmart has not started selling some of the same?
Of course, it was at Cheaper Than Dirt's usual ridiculously high pricing of 22 ammo.
Of course, it was at Cheaper Than Dirt's usual ridiculously high pricing of 22 ammo.
Wolf 22 is made by Lapua in Germany.
Deltaboy1984
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I paid 18.75 dollars for 2 Remmington golden bullet 225 bulk packs.Could you tell us the prices for the .22LR ammo?
Did you get the .22 ammo before or after you got the H&R 20 gauge?
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sniper69
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Today was the arrival of the ammo shipment at the local Gander Mountain. There was one bucket of remington .22 LR and one ammo can of CCI (I think minimags - $119 price tag). Both were grabbed before I could get lucky (I got there before the store opening at 9 and there were about 16 people there). I could have grabbed the CCI but I try to be respectable to those that were there even earlier than me and don't feel like fighting over ammo. Strange thing was is that the two guys that grabbed the bulk containers didn't even look at what they were - just knew they were 22LR. So with the two bulk packs gone - there was still a variety of 22, but it was a limit of 200 rds. So I got 200 rds. of Thunderbolts and 200 rds of 22 WMR (for a family member who hasn't seen any in stock where they live for a while). Not a bad day (since I got some ammo and two of my kids got to go to the store with me), but not as good as the last few times I've found 22 in stock.
dogtown tom
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At 11pm last night I bought 500rounds of CCI Blazer .22 from Cabelas.com @ $30.30
At 12:05am this morning I bought another 500 rnds.
"Normal" price .22 is not that hard to find if you are willing to invest a little time and patience.
Sign up for Wikiarms.com and finding ammo is pretty easy.
At 12:05am this morning I bought another 500 rnds.
"Normal" price .22 is not that hard to find if you are willing to invest a little time and patience.
Sign up for Wikiarms.com and finding ammo is pretty easy.
RetiredUSNChief
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People like you and me, who buy .22 LR ammunition.
People like you and me, who buy .22 LR ammunition.
Mebbe so, but I have yet to see a price pop up that wasn't roughly 3 times (or more) than I'm willing to pay for 22LR.
I'm seeing the $90 / brick prices from way too many vendors - I'm going to have to clean out my stash at that price!
dogtown tom
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That's how I found those $30 a brick Blazers.
I believe that once the available stock is depleted it disappears off the Wikiarms list.
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Deltaboy1984
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I mistyped the numbers .If the info is correct, you got it for less than $.03 per round. Amazing !
22 LR, good news and bad
Just wanted to share my latest gun show observations. Went to a RK Gun Show yesterday in KC, MO. Everyone, as usual, was looking for 22LR. The good news: there was more 22LR ammo than I have seen in awhile. The bad news: It is still priced about 3X what it should be. Most bricks were $60 (Blazer, Remington Thunderbolt, Winchester Wildcat). The loose stuff was priced 10 cents per round or higher. CCI mini-mag varied from $16 to $25. Of course, I left without any 22LR. Did buy a box of 500 9mm for $150, good locally loaded ammo, not the Russian stuff which was abundant and cheaper. Found 17 HMR for $120 per brick, which is not bad. Saw some Remington 7.5 BR small rifle primers on "special" for $33; most places are charging $40. The guy had several cases of them. Powder was still priced high but at least some stuff was available. Pistol primers were abundant. This particular show was long on accessories and short on guns. Next stop, Tulsa. See ya there!
Just wanted to share my latest gun show observations. Went to a RK Gun Show yesterday in KC, MO. Everyone, as usual, was looking for 22LR. The good news: there was more 22LR ammo than I have seen in awhile. The bad news: It is still priced about 3X what it should be. Most bricks were $60 (Blazer, Remington Thunderbolt, Winchester Wildcat). The loose stuff was priced 10 cents per round or higher. CCI mini-mag varied from $16 to $25. Of course, I left without any 22LR. Did buy a box of 500 9mm for $150, good locally loaded ammo, not the Russian stuff which was abundant and cheaper. Found 17 HMR for $120 per brick, which is not bad. Saw some Remington 7.5 BR small rifle primers on "special" for $33; most places are charging $40. The guy had several cases of them. Powder was still priced high but at least some stuff was available. Pistol primers were abundant. This particular show was long on accessories and short on guns. Next stop, Tulsa. See ya there!
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alfon99
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I'm not in the US, but believe it or not, here in Uruguay we have lots of .22 ammo. That's why I only have 400 rounds for my 3 22's. And I used to have even less. Because I don't need tons of ammo when I can just go and buy some.
Mike1234567
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Thanks for sharing your experiences. It makes me wonder if US manufacturers are intentionally depriving the US market in favor of selling overseas just to permanently drive domestic prices up. Who knows, maybe Uruguay will be the next victim of a shortage after US buyers are conditioned into paying triple the prices we once did. I hope that doesn't happen to you but I do suspect market manipulation by the ammo makers.
I can't offer any hope of buying .22 LR in my little town other than the overpriced stuff I just sold to my one local pawn shop.
alfon99
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Maybe. Here the most common ammo is rimfire. If you go to the gas station (there is no gunshop in this little town) The most common stuff is aguila supermaximum, and remington thunderbolts. There is also plenty of mini-mags and in .22 wmr plenty of maxi-mag. Of course here in the country they have lots of shotgun ammo.
High demand oversees, if it existed, could lead to lower supplies at home, and therefore to higher prices.
But intentionally "depriving the US market" to drive up prices would not make business sense. Nor would any such price increase be permanent.
How so?
A price increase is, and can only be, caused by (1) an increase in demand or a decrease in supply, or (2) higher costs. Should the issue result from lower supplies, that could have to do with one or both of two things: a greater return from using the needed resources to make other products with a higher margin, or shortages of materials. Higher costs would most likely be attributable to hgther material costs, possibly supply driven.
No rational business would ever reduce production solely to increase unit prices, unless the product in question had an unusual price elasticity curve or unless the resources needed were not renewable.
I love a good ("good" being the operative word) conspiracy theory as much as the next fellow, but back in post 189 I gave 6 reasons why I think we have our current 22LR shortage.
How many other country's shooters are now dumping 22LR thru 22 AR15s as we now are in the U.S.?
In how many other countries are preppers a large and growing market?
Etc....
In my case, 8 months ago I went from having just a brick or two of 22 (just because I didn't have any) to buying a number of 22 firearms and over 60k rds or so, and have provided another 15k or so to friends that also have 22ARs (we all got into 22ARs etc over the last 8 months or so).
Back when I was hunting for 22LR ammo online, I found bricks of 22LR ammo available in Canada, (at good prices) but ya can't ship across the border.
Apparently there was no 22LR ammo shortage in Canada, but they probably don't fit in many / any of the 6 reasons I previously listed?
Mike1234567
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Yeah, I know... I have "trust issues".
Gun Master
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Honest Answers to Higher Prices and Availability of .22 LR and other Ammo
Or maybe I could just say, " Aw, it's just a coincidence ." or " It's just a normal economical spike ." or "The economy is up, so the price of ammo is too." (all of which has lasted quite some time) or " ....... "ad infinitum.
Or maybe someone, (who really knows what he is talking about, and is not doing double speak, or blowing smoke out of his peace pipe) could give us reasonable answers.
This mess has lasted too long, and needs a qualified in depth investigation with some solid facts and plausible answers.
Is this a good one for the NRA or some other reputable firearms oriented organization?
Me too.Yeah, I know... I have "trust issues".
Or maybe I could just say, " Aw, it's just a coincidence ." or " It's just a normal economical spike ." or "The economy is up, so the price of ammo is too." (all of which has lasted quite some time) or " ....... "ad infinitum.
Or maybe someone, (who really knows what he is talking about, and is not doing double speak, or blowing smoke out of his peace pipe) could give us reasonable answers.
This mess has lasted too long, and needs a qualified in depth investigation with some solid facts and plausible answers.
Is this a good one for the NRA or some other reputable firearms oriented organization?
no it would be foolish for the NRA or any other organization to waste resources on what is obvious. Lots more shooters. Lots more guns that holds more rounds and lines and lines of people waiting for stores to open on shipment day.
It is pretty easy concept I don't understand why people can't understand and look to blame boogiemen that don't exist
Gun Master
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The Price of Ammo is Just Naturally High....What?
Yes, that is the easy way. More guns, more shooters, more, more, more,........
How about the facts, figures, you know,...... investigate. That's means a reasonable study of the situation. I would hate to believe, "All I know is what I read in the newspapers.", like Will Rogers jokingly stated many years ago.
I don't recall seeing this being checked out by a responsible organization. Are we to just sit back and say, "It's just business as usual." ?
Yes, that is the easy way. More guns, more shooters, more, more, more,........How about the facts, figures, you know,...... investigate. That's means a reasonable study of the situation. I would hate to believe, "All I know is what I read in the newspapers.", like Will Rogers jokingly stated many years ago.
I don't recall seeing this being checked out by a responsible organization. Are we to just sit back and say, "It's just business as usual." ?
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