22Lr question

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joe2004

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When shooting 22LR from a Rifle at how many yards does it start to drop? for example if you have a target that’s a size of a Coke can at 50 or 100 yards can you am at the can and shoot it or do you have to aim the cross hair allot higher for it to hit the can in the middle I guess I don’t know how far can it hit with out dropping too much

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With your average .22lr sighted at 50yds drop is pretty easy to compensate for out to about 150yds.
 
If you sight in a scoped .22LR at 25 yards, it will also be sighted in at 50. The bullet is rising at 25, and dropping at 50.

Bullets begin to "drop" from the line of sight of the bore the very INSTANT they leave the barrel. Be it a 50bmg or a 22lr

True, however the line of sight of the bore is usually angled upward slightly vis a vis the sights, so that a bullet is actually rising for a little while. Downward acceleration due to gravity -- not drop, but the rate of change of drop -- is constant, but the upward component of velocity can be far greater, especially at first, when you're sighted in for distance.
 
so that a bullet is actually rising for a little while.

In relation to the horizon YES In relation to the center line of the bore NO the bullet's path is always falling away. Unless you're shooting straight up that is.
 
according to Norma ballistic calc; shooting a .15 b.c. 22 cal bullet at standard velocity of 1066 fps, with a 25 yard zero, with a scope, that raises your line of site over your boreline by 1.6 inches, you will be about 8 inches low at 100. Shooting hi vel bullets at about 1200 fps, will get you 5 inches low at 100.
typically , if shooting hi vels, you want to be about 1.5 inches high at 25, this will put you about 3.3 inches high a 50, and right back on at 100 yds. this is for standard hi vels, between, 1200 and 1275 fps, at the muzzle.
Now of course, this will change, with faster or slower ammo, or if your scope mid line, is more than 1.6 inches above your bore line. Most dudes scopes are about 2 to 2.5 inches above your sight line, so theywill come up higher than that. Hypervelocity ammo, or Aguila Interceptor ammo, with a 25 yard zero, will proly be right on again, at 100 yds.
 
of course, if you have no scope or dot sight at all, you will proly need about a 15 yard zero, to be back on at 100 yds. and your 50 yards midline arc, will proly be 5 or 6 inches above your sight line
 
Some will disagree but 100yds is more than a .22lr is intended for. 50yds is a good outside and probably most .22 shooting is at 50 feet. So sight it in at 25 yds and you will be hitting cans out to 50 yds. If you don't want to bother adjusting sights take it to a range or set one up and see for yourself where it shoots at different ranges. If it shoots all over the place that is probably pilot errot :)
 
I zeroed my G22 at 100m, so I'm good up to 200m, by mildot reticle alone, rising up to 1.5 mils @50m and dropping to 3 or so mils @200m. Hitting coke can is easy, even at 200m, if the wind is read properly.
 
If you sight in a scoped .22LR at 25 yards, it will also be sighted in at 50. The bullet is rising at 25, and dropping at 50.

Not entirely. Scope height is also a factor. A rifle with a scope 1.5" above the bore will not drop the bullet at the same place at 50 yds as a rifle with a scope 1.25" or 1.75" or any other height other than 1.5" if both rifles are zeroed at 25 yds.
 
When I bought my Remington 597, the paperwork said it had been zeroed for 100 yds at the factory. When shooting at 25 yds, the group was about three inches high. That's all I really know about this...
 
As stated, the height of the sight, and the velocity of the bullet will alter greatly the trajectory...I had a 4X32 scope mounted as low as possible on a Browning BLR-22, shooting the original CCI Stingers (the older, 29gr 1500 ft/sec rounds). When sighted at 25 yards, it was also dead on at 100 yards, and seemed to be about 2" high at 50. Anyway, I never missed anything at least the size of a sparrow (from trajectory, anyway).
 
Again to reiterate, the bullet is being pulled down the second it leaves the barrel in every plane except verticle, there is no debate to it.

It may appear to do something else due to the way the sights are adjusted.

Here is a broad basis to start from:
From the POA of a .22LR muzzle pointing at the bull of a target at 100 yards (think actually looking thru the barrel and barrel sighting it at the bull at 100, don't think about sight settings here), the shot fired at 100 yards in the above manner will fall roughly 3.5 inches from its muzzle point of aim at 100 yards (excluding external forces such as wind deflection, humidity, altitude etc).
 
The bullet is being pulled down. That doesn't mean it's dropping.

The acceleration due to gravity is constant, NOT the downward velocity, or "drop".

If the bullet is rising due to the vertical component of velocity, present whenever the barrel is anything but flat, it will not actually be dropping until the vertical component of the velocity vector drops below zero. It will be rising, but ever more slowly.

It is true that gravity begins acting on the bullet, introducing a downward acceleration component to the velocity vector over time, so in that sense, it is dropping as soon as it leaves the barrel. But in a real sense, the bullet sighted in with the sight axis above the barrel, at some distance from the barrel, is not dropping until it reaches the apex of the trajectory.

Acceleration is not the same as velocity.

The upshot is this: a bullet slows over time after leaving the barrel. Gravity's acceleration leads to an exponentially faster downward velocity component over time. That's why eventually a bullet WILL hit the dirt, no matter what. A .22 will hit the dirt at a much closer DISTANCE than a .204 Ruger, which is going a LOT faster and is loaded with a much more aerodynamic bullet, and said dirt-hitting distance is not a linear relationship to the muzzle velocity. HOWEVER, from a flat barrel, the .22 and the .204 will hit the dirt AT THE SAME TIME. The faster round has just gone farther horizontally in that time, since it's going faster horizontally and for no other reason.

The further upshot is that no matter how "flat shooting" a round might be, once it gets out past 400 yards, it'll have dropped a LOT from the line of sight from the barrel. So will any round, because acceleration due to gravity, and deceleration due to wind resistance, catch up to the bullet.
 
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I consider the .22LR to be a 100 yard max cartridge. If you want more, 22man, 17HMR are better choices. 7" or so of hold over isn't bad. If you are going to shoot over 50, you should use a 75 yard zero or whatever suits the needs of that day. Guys who do a lot of .22LR shooting at various distances just invest in some scope with target turrets to make adjustments.

I usually shoot 22LR at 25 and 50. That seems to be the most common for most people at the range. Both serious shooters and people just plinking.


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Name: .22LR

BC:             0.1500 (G1)     Temperature:     73.0 degrees   Cant Angle:        0.0 deg.
Weight:         40.0 grains     Humidity:          73 %         Sight-In Range:     25 yd.
Caliber:        .224            Pressure:       29.92 in.       Muzzle Angle:   11.481 moa
Sight Height:   2.00 inches     Crosswind:       10.0 mph       TargetSpeed:       0.0 mph
LOS Angle:      0.0 degrees     Altitude:          25 ft.       Target Angle:     90.0 deg.
Sect. Density:  0.114           Air Density:   0.0738 lb./ft.^3
                                Air Density:     96.5 % of Sea Level



 Range     Drop     Velocity    Energy    Momentum   Windage     Lead     Time   Elevation
(Yards)  (inches)   (ft/sec)   (ft-lbs)   (lb-sec)   (inches)  (inches)  (secs)    (moa)

    0     -2.00      1075.0      102.6     0.1909      0.00       0.0    0.000      -----
    5     -1.45      1066.3      101.0     0.1894      0.01       0.0    0.014     -28.90
   10     -0.97      1057.9       99.4     0.1879      0.04       0.0    0.028      -9.67
   15     -0.57      1049.8       97.9     0.1865      0.10       0.0    0.042      -3.77
   20     -0.24      1042.0       96.4     0.1851      0.17       0.0    0.057      -1.22
   25      0.00      1034.4       95.0     0.1837      0.25       0.0    0.071       0.00
   30      0.16      1027.0       93.7     0.1824      0.36       0.0    0.086       0.53
   35      0.24      1019.8       92.4     0.1811      0.49       0.0    0.100       0.68
   40      0.23      1012.9       91.1     0.1799      0.63       0.0    0.115       0.58
   45      0.14      1006.1       89.9     0.1787      0.79       0.0    0.130       0.31
   50     -0.04       999.5       88.7     0.1775      0.97       0.0    0.145      -0.07
   55     -0.30       993.1       87.6     0.1764      1.17       0.0    0.160      -0.54
   60     -0.65       986.9       86.5     0.1753      1.38       0.0    0.175      -1.08
   65     -1.09       980.8       85.4     0.1742      1.61       0.0    0.191      -1.68
   70     -1.62       974.8       84.4     0.1732      1.85       0.0    0.206      -2.31
   75     -2.24       969.0       83.4     0.1721      2.12       0.0    0.221      -2.99
   80     -2.96       963.3       82.4     0.1711      2.39       0.0    0.237      -3.70
   85     -3.77       957.7       81.5     0.1701      2.69       0.0    0.252      -4.43
   90     -4.67       952.2       80.5     0.1691      3.00       0.0    0.268      -5.19
   95     -5.67       946.8       79.6     0.1682      3.32       0.0    0.284      -5.97
  100     -6.76       941.5       78.7     0.1672      3.67       0.0    0.300      -6.76
  105     -7.96       936.3       77.9     0.1663      4.02       0.0    0.316      -7.58
  110     -9.25       931.3       77.0     0.1654      4.40       0.0    0.332      -8.41
  115    -10.64       926.2       76.2     0.1645      4.78       0.0    0.348      -9.26
  120    -12.14       921.3       75.4     0.1637      5.19       0.0    0.364     -10.12
  125    -13.74       916.5       74.6     0.1628      5.61       0.0    0.381     -10.99
 
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