.22tcm good or bad
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I have the single stack 22tcm/9mm combo. Shooting 9mm never had any issues so far so good. A friend loaded up some 22tcm using .223 brass only shot 20rounds of his reloads in which I had no issues at all. My 22tcm brass and bullet heads came in, but haven't had time to reload as of yet. But wow that 22tcm out of a pistol is fun.
First time shooting 9mm, correction...that 25y group is actually 7y
First time shooting 9mm, correction...that 25y group is actually 7y
TfflHndn
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Good, good, good!!! It's a hoot to shoot. Big flash, big boom, accurate as heck. A little tricky to reload. And you must keep the chamber clean. Just a little build-up where it tapers down will cause it to not go into battery or the empty will stick and not eject. The 9mm shoots about a dozen clicks higher on mine than the .22TCM. Both are very soft shooters. I have the double-stack, BTW.
Ed Ames
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I love these. They aren't perfect but near nuff to cause me trouble.
I bought the full size double stack with target sights a year plus ago. Awesome. I didn't like the stock plastic stocks they were using at the time so put a p14 wrap-around on which is a near but not perfect fit. Nice shooting but I sometimes induce issues by riding the safety and having my thumb brush the slide. Not much reserve energy. No issues beyond that, 9 or 22 (using the TCM extractor).
Then I came across a vz mid size model and with fiber optic front sight, ambi safety , rail, etc. and it followed me home. I like it a lot. It actually has a hard time feeding 9mm (they don't go up the ramp) but I never use the 9mm barrel anyway. Only thing I don't like is that I can't take it with me when I visit California (home of endless awesome public land shooting opportunities) because no 10rd mags. So....
I'm now waiting for one of the single stack mids without rail to come along at a price I can tolerate.
I would trade the 5" in on a 6" model in a heartbeat, but other than that I like 'em a bit too much.
I bought the full size double stack with target sights a year plus ago. Awesome. I didn't like the stock plastic stocks they were using at the time so put a p14 wrap-around on which is a near but not perfect fit. Nice shooting but I sometimes induce issues by riding the safety and having my thumb brush the slide. Not much reserve energy. No issues beyond that, 9 or 22 (using the TCM extractor).
Then I came across a vz mid size model and with fiber optic front sight, ambi safety , rail, etc. and it followed me home. I like it a lot. It actually has a hard time feeding 9mm (they don't go up the ramp) but I never use the 9mm barrel anyway. Only thing I don't like is that I can't take it with me when I visit California (home of endless awesome public land shooting opportunities) because no 10rd mags. So....
I'm now waiting for one of the single stack mids without rail to come along at a price I can tolerate.
I would trade the 5" in on a 6" model in a heartbeat, but other than that I like 'em a bit too much.
Red Cent
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"It actually has a hard time feeding 9mm (they don't go up the ramp)"
Magazine.
Magazine.
Ed Ames
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Could be the mags, though there are three (one came with each pistol, and I bought an official TCM spare when buying bulk ammo and components). And I don't recall the 5" having that problem, just the 4.25". But yes, likely it is a matter of needing the magazine feed lips spread a touch. The problem is they work fine for TCM and I have 9s already, so we'll never find out. The conversion barrel is somewhere between a gimick and insurance against TCM dying and leaving you with a gun you would need to give to a smith to rebarrel. If I could do it over I wouldn't get convertible models.
Panzerschwein
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Pretty cool guns. I listen to Gun Talk Radio with Tom Gresham, and they talk about the .22 TCM alot.
One guy on the show was saying his BIL had an injured arm and couldn't fire a .45 1911 anymore. The .22 TCM though has little recoil and the slide is really easy to pull back, said his BIL loved it.
OP, if you've got the rifle, having the pistol to go alongside it would be as good as a peanut butter and pickle sandwich (which is really good, try it)!
One guy on the show was saying his BIL had an injured arm and couldn't fire a .45 1911 anymore. The .22 TCM though has little recoil and the slide is really easy to pull back, said his BIL loved it.
OP, if you've got the rifle, having the pistol to go alongside it would be as good as a peanut butter and pickle sandwich (which is really good, try it)!
TimboKhan
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This is one of those things that I hope catches on because I am interested, but not enough to roll the dice on. I know I could just reload and all that, but I don't have the time. If it hits mainstream status though...
Ed Ames
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That's the catch .22 of all this, which they short circuit with the 9mm barrel.
As far as I can tell the TCM kit runs a $60-$100 premium over the closest equivalent 9mm guns. If you would buy a modern 1911/2011 steel 9mm, buying a RIA TCM instead costs < $100 more and adds .22 TCM capability.
Viewed that way, TCM isn't a big risk. If it flatlines and you don't want to reload you still have a nice 9mm. No real chance of 9mm dying too.
I have the pistol and it's great fun. My only issue was that I had to adjust the sizing die down a bit to set the shoulder back otherwise the rounds would not seat and the gun would not go into battery. I use the TCM recommendation of 10 gr H110 with their 40gr bullet. Works fine. I had read of people loading higher than that amount, but I don't.
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