.25-06 Factory Ammo, HELP!

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LATex79

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My daughter recently gave me a Weatherby Vanguard .25-06 as a gift. Since it was a gift from my daughter I feel obligated to keep it and use it. I am hunting in east texas for deer where long shots are 250 yards (pipeline or powerline) and the average shot is probably about 80 - 100 yards. There is the ocassional 25-30 yard shot as well. I need help selecting some factory ammo. I do not reload and have no interest in reloading at this point. The factory shot target that came with the rifle indicates that it was shot using a 100 gr. s.p. and the entire 3 shot group can be covered with a penny. My local store has remington corelokt 100 gr. p.s.p., Hornady Interlokt 117 gr., winchester ballistic silver tip ? gr., and federal vital shock 115 gr. sp ammo. Is the remington 100 gr. ammo enough gun for this type of deer hunting? Should I consider one of the alternatives at the local store, or should I totally consider something else and perhaps travel to get it or order online?

Thanks for your advice in advance.
 
Thanks for the reply salthouse. I guess my main question is if the remington corelokt 100 gr. psp will kill 150# deer humanely or if I need to use a heavier bullet. I have no experience with this caliber. For the last 10 years I have hunted exclusively with a .270 using 150 gr. core lokt soft points.
 
You will be just fine with the Remington 100gr. Or the hornady, winchester or federal for that matter. I will be using the Winchester 115gr this year, if that matters

Be safe and good luck on the hunt.

patty
 
I like the Hornady 117 grain ammo. I have taken a few deer with my H&R Ultra rifle in .25-06 using this round.

The neck is the best place for a one-shot, drop-in-the-tracks kill.
 
Sorry, I misunderstood. 100gr corelokt, well placed, is more than enough. Congratulations on the great gift you got (not the rifle, but a daughter thoughtful enough to get you the rifle!).
 
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I would buy the Remington and the Hornady and try them to see what shoots best in your rifle. Great caliber in a great rifle from a real sweet daughter.

NCsmitty
 
Winchester Supreme 115gr Ballistic Silvertip. Yes its expensive, It is however absolutly devastating "instant death" on Whitetail or mule deer. I've seen one deer take (stagger) several steps despite the fact that both lungs & heart had been shredded. All others simply dropped where they stood.
 
I always shot Hornady 117 grain spire points in mine...that was long before the Hornady "Light Magnum" loads came to be, so I have not tried those.

The plain old 117 grain loads have filled my freezer with deer meat many times over.
 
There is the ocassional 25-30 yard shot as well.

as a 25-06 owner myself (multiple examples, in fact), this part of your statement would be my biggest concern. the 25-06 is a high velocity cartridge. i have busted deer w/ mine long (more than 400 yards) and short (less than 5 yards). the long performance will be there w/ about anything you pick. the short performance will be problematic w/ certain bullets.

my best advice on bullets, and what i use and my brother uses exclusively, is 120 grain bullets. my preference is sierra gamekings, but about any 117+ bullet will handle everything you want. w/ long shots topping out at 250-ish yards, you will not sacrifice any long range performance, and you have a margin of safety for short range.

get a couple flavors of 117's and 120's, find one that shoots to your liking, zero the rifle at +1.5" at 100, and be confident.

good luck, and what a daughter!
 
I'll second the concern about close shots, which is why the Ballistic Tip may not be the best choice (though within their velocity range they're real killers). The difference between 100 and 120 grain bullets on deer probably won't be significant if you choose the right bullet. The Core-Lokt should be fine but I'd look for something loaded with a 110 grain Accubond as added insurance.

That should be a heck of a gun for your needs.
 
Those up-close shots inside 100 yards is why God put a white spot on a deer's neck! "Point it and pull, Hell ain't half-full."

Inside of 300 yards, there ain't a deer in Texas that's gonna survive any .25-'06 bullet of whatever size, if you hit a vital spot. As usual, it's hitting the vital spot that counts.
 
I'd run with a 100 grainer of some flavor, as that's what the rifle was tested with. The 1 in 10 of the Vanguard *may* not shoot the 117/120s well. And what Art said.

Weatherby tests the Vanguard in .257 Wby mag with 100 gr spire point ammo made by Weatherby, but my chart here does not show what specific ammo is used for .25-'06 for some reason.
 
They sell the gun with the target shot with ammo they know shoots best with it... I would venture to say they have their groups shot with handloads made by an employee... I would do as others suggested and try different brands of ammo at the same time.. See what gives the best overall performance... You need penetration, expansion, and accuracy... A core lock would be a good choice but i personally would go for a heavier bullet than a 100...
 
"Inside of 300 yards, there ain't a deer in Texas that's gonna survive any .25-'06 bullet of whatever size, if you hit a vital spot. As usual, it's hitting the vital spot that counts."

Make that 500 yards.

:cool:
 
All of the ones you listed are good. I shoot reloads in mine using 100 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. In my gun, they shoot like a laser and are death incarnate on the whitetails I have shot with it. All of them have been in the 130-150 lb range however.
 
First impressions from the range

Thanks for the great feedback guys. I was amazed that the .25-06 is such a really light recoiling round. It is like shooting a .22lr with a little more muzzle blast. I tried the 120 gr. and 100 gr. corelokts. The gun did not care for the core lokts. I am a hunter, not a target shooter by any means, but I can usually shoot about a 1.25" - 1.75" group at 100 yards with my .270 using 150 gr. corelokts. The best I could do with the 100 gr and 120 gr corelokts today was about 2.25" - 2.75" with the rifle preferring the 120 gr slightly. I am going to try some of the hornady sst interlocks tomorrow or Sunday. Would the SST interloks be OK for the ocassional close shot?
 
I've got three .25's.
Two are .257Roberts and one a .257WbyMag.

My oldest .257Bob is a custom M98 with a "3" chamber (long throated chamber) hence it behaves very similarily to a friends .25/06 as regards velocity. Bullet performance from the "Roberts" essentially duplicates the .25/06 as my handloads have essentially equal performance to the factory loaded .25/06.

I had trouble with the first Nosler 100gr BallisticTips in the mid '80's. Later lot#'s were/are better by a little bit. Not enough that I can recommend using them. The single mule deer I shot with an 85gr Nosler BallisticTip dropped dead in it's tracks, but it was at 385yds, so not a real test of the bullet. I've had numerous blow-ups at short range when using the Nosler Ballistic Tips in .25caliber. Last year I shot a doe at ~75yds with a Nosler 115gr ballistic tip from my .257wby (muzzle velocity 3,350fps). It failed on a shoulder shot. Deer was knocked down, got up and ran while I was trying to get the crosshairs on another and got away. There were 1"x5" strips of deer meat hanging from bunch grass in front of where the deer was standing as well as the side of a dogwood tree above and behind where the deer was standing (clear open broadside shot).
So, I can't recommend any .25cal. Nosler BT for close in shooting.
(.30 and .338" BT's are a different story. Avoid using the .30's in the large magnums,however- ask me how I know!).

The Hornady 100gr PtSpt is another story. I've recovered several through the years that were classic mushrooms from just under the hide after heart/lung and spine shots. Likewise from the 117gr BTSP and RoundNose. The single most accurate bullet from my Vangard .257mag is the 117gr RN seated to 3.180" over 60gr of H4350. At 3,200fps it shoots monotonous 0.5" groups at 100yds. Nearly as accurate over 76.0gr of WC860 at 3,300fps.

The Sierra's are most accurate (usually), and perform similar to the Hornady's. Nothing wrong with the Sierra's (as usual). I've shot a LOT of deer with the 100gr flat base and boat-tails. Likewise the 120gr BTHP, which holds together very well and has never shown any tendency to slip the core. I've never used many of the 117gr Sierra's however; just haven't gotten around to them.

The Remington 100gr Corlokt does about as well as the Hornady InterLok, but expands a little more slowly. I've never recovered on fired from either of my .257Roberts from over 2 dozen deer shot with them. Never required a second shot either. However, as you noted, they aren't always very accurate. I had one box of 100 of the 120gr Corelokts before Remington ceased selling them in component. A sad day! The few deer I shot with them appeared to have been shot with something quite a bit bigger than a .25. Accuracy was decent, but nothing to rave about.

Avoid using the bullets lighter than 90grs. A coworker had to shoot a nice 225lb buck in the bed of his personal truck with his duty issue .357mag. in the parking lot of the Harris Co. Georgia Court House. He'd shot the deer in the neck with the Winchester 87gr PEP load. Deer revived about 2hrs later while he was at a bond hearing on an arrest he'd made the previous day, and had gotten paged to come to court while he was on his way home from hunting. Very Embarrasing ! Bullet hole in the truck was never repaired. Wasn't in a "critical" spot.......... The .25cal bullet had blown up on a vertebrae, left a large exit wound, but didn't lacerate any large blood vessels, so the deer didn't bleed out. Not that is until the 145gr .357 SilverTip broke it's neck.....

I hope you enjoy your .25 as much as I have mine.
 
I have a 25aught six-And I love it , Its built on a 1903a3 action and it shoots 120gr into a nickel size group at 150yds,
try several different ammo brands and gr weights. Deer dont care what GR, bullets you kill them with Any bullet will kill deer easy ceptmaby the varment ones --You can shoot ELK with a 25-06 but is best to step one notch to 6.5mm 06,, If I were building a rifle thats the cal. id build .
 
Core lokts will do MI deer and will for sure do Texas deer.

Since you dont load buy several boxes and you will be set for a few years. Save the brass and send it to me. Just put it right back into the box from which it came.
 
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