30 cal. 135 gr. SMK

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I've been looking for load data for this bullet in 30-06 and 308. I.ve been told by a tech at Sierra that I could use 150 gr load data. Looking for what has worked for others. Not interested in hot rodding this bullet. Looking for powder and Chrono data on accuracy loads.
If anyone has worked with this bullet I would greatly appreciate any and all input.

TIA
 
This is for a .3006 Berger. powders should give you an idea..... I don't load 3006 or 308 so I can't tell you anything more than what I could find....
 

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From Sierra:

https://www.sierrabullets.com/store/product.cfm/sn/2123/308-dia-135-gr-HPBT-MatchKing

With normal barrel twist rates for 308 and 30-06, this bullet will be spun too fast for best accuracy. But it'll still shoot 2" or better at 100'yards. The 30BR cartridge shoots 125-gr. bullets out at 3000 fps with 1:17 to 1:18 twist barrels producing best accuracy through 300 yards in benchrest matches shot for score. With the higher velocity these cartridges will shoot this 135 gr. bullet with the same peak pressure, that twist range will spin them at their optimum rpm rate. RPM formula: fps times 720, then divide by twist. Examples with max loads:

30BR with 125 gr. (3000 X 720) divided by 17 = 127,059 rpm.
30-06 with 135 gr. (3200 X 720) divided by 10 = 230,400 rpm.
308W with 135 gr. (3100 X 720) divided by 12 = 186,000 rpm.

I suggest reduced loads no more than 10% below max in listed data for these cartridges if best accuracy is your top objective. This will reduce bullet spin rate 10 to 20 percent. Anything less won't expand the case to chamber dimensions at peak pressure and will severely shorten case life with best safety. Excessive pressure ring stretching and expanding happens with reduced loads more than 10% below max charge weights in my experience. Reduced loads lower the spin rate which improves accuracy in these conditions.

308W with 135 gr. reduced 10% from max (2600 X 720) divided by 12 = 156,000 rpm.

All bullets spun too fast will jump too far from the bore axis from centrifugal force because most of them in a box of 100 are unbalanced a very tiny amount. Spun at the right rpm, they'll all shoot tiny groups.
 
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Hodgdon has load data for the 30-06 and .308 Win with 130gr bullets. You can also use that data just don't bump up against the limits. I would try 4895 or 3031. When I loaded up some 110gr bullets in the 30--06 it was with H4895.
 
Probably make a fine bullet for the Contender on deer sized game.
 
Thanks to all who have supplied imput.
Bart
The comparisons that you posted, 30BR 308 30-06, is the 30BR spin rate the desired spin rate for that Bullet?
 
Or not... The MatchKing bullet is a poor choice for any game. Using it for hunting is not recommended by the manufacturer.
Sure, at 308 or 30-06 velocities I will agree but you get poor results from game kings with 30-30 velocity from 14" barrels.
Sierra once made a very good 135 gr .30 cal. handgun bullet but it is hasn't been listed for quite a few years.
 
Good post Bart.

A quote from Sierra about their 125 gr TMK designed for 300 BLK.

This Tipped MatchKing (TMK) bullet is designed to expand the diversity of lightweight .30 caliber offerings for AR and bolt action chamberings. The jacket was specifically designed to handle velocities ranging up through common .30 caliber mid-level cartridges.
Backs up what Bart is saying in my mind. They know the 300 BLK generally uses a 1 in 12, but the velocity is only going to be around 2200/2300 FPS.

(2300X720) divided by 12 = 138,000

Wideners had these on sale for a super low price so I bought 500, but have yet to see what they would do in my gun. It has shot some pretty nice groups with the Hornady 110 Gr V Max and 123 Gr Z Max. Not that I use it for group shooting, but it's always nice to see what a barrel can do with good bullets. It shoots the 125 Gr SST pretty good.
 
Use the 130 grain data and shoot coyotes and/or other varmints with 'em. 5 grains won't matter and Wiley won't know. However, Sierra's site linked by Bart also shows the things are on 'Backorder'.
 
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The comparisons that you posted, 30BR 308 30-06, is the 30BR spin rate the desired spin rate for that Bullet?
No, not for the 135; only for the 125 grain one.

In my experience shooting Sierra's 155 to 210 grain bullets from 308 cases, my (somewhat) educated guess suggests that 135 spin 135K to 140K rpm for best accuracy. Acceptable accuracy can be had with 10% more spin.

Contact Sierra asking what twist and muzzle velocity that 135-gr match bullet is tested with. Their accuracy standard for their match bullets is all 10-shot test groups inside 1/2 MOA at 200 yards. It used to be 1/4 MOA average; all under 1/2 is a much better standard.

Use the JBM stability calculator

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi

with a 1.05" long bullet length for Sierra's 30 caliber 135 gr HPMK bullet at different twists and muzzle velocities. Any stability result in green is good for temperatures about 65 degrees F or higher. JBM likes to use a factor of 1.4 as a minimum but that's for temperatures freezing and below, in my opinion.
 
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OK. I am more confused than when I started this thread.
Still not looking to hot rod this bullet
Let me ask these Question of those that have actually shot this bullet.
What rifling twist was used?
Which powder and loading? If you exceed published data I do not want that info.
What was your most accurate grouping?
TIA
 
I've shot gobs of 125gr TNTs in 308 and 30-06 and never had much trouble finding superb loads in either 1:12 or 1:10" twists. My load is very similar to what I use for a 155gr or 168gr matchking--maybe 1gr heavier. I'd do the same thing with a 135gr.

I shoot the 125gr with 42gr IMR4895 in a LC case, Rem primer for 308 (I'd start at 39.5 or 40).

I use Re15 for the 125gr in 30-06. Notes say 52.3gr, LC case, Rem primer.

Haven't fished around with other powders much.
 
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