300 Win., 600 yd's, Really?

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I am a handgun guy and don't know a lot about rifles since I am not a hunter, anyway, I am going shooting this weekend with a buddy and a friend of his will join us. He has a 300 win. rifle (not sure which kind) he say's he shoots out to 600 yd's.

How does the 300 win. compare to 30-06 and .308?

Must be one heck of a rifle and scope, can't wait to see this.

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600 yards with the .300 Winchester magnum in front of a person that knows how to shoot it is a walk in the park. The .300 shoots flatter and has way more punch then either 30-06 or the .308 and both of those can shoot to 600 yards.
 
shooting at 600 yards and beyond is a lot of fun. if the guy truly has the gun set up for extended range shooting, you will have a blast.

300 win mag runs the same bullet as the 30-06 and 308 a couple hundred feet per second faster. it recoils significantly more than the other two.
 
Hi Power shooters consistently shoot 600 yds. using the .223 and iron sights.
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They are not shooting 55 or 62 grain bullets. They are shooting 69 and 80 grain bullets that normally are seated in the brass longer than what will fit in a magazine and are feed into the rifles one at a time from the side.
 
Yes, that is the way shooters deal with slow fire prone at 600 yds. The 80 gr. bullets are much better than the 69 gr. ones at 600 and I usually seat them about .010 off the lands.
 
He has a 300 win. rifle (not sure which kind) he say's he shoots out to 600 yd's.

How does the 300 win. compare to 30-06 and .308?

Must be one heck of a rifle and scope, can't wait to see this.
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A properly set up 300 Win. Mag is easily capable of 600 yard accuracy shooting. Of course the shooter must be capable as well. It fires the same bullets as the .308 and .30-06 at higher velocities.

The History Channel aired a show on "Magnums" and one segment showed the US Army Marksmanship team shooting their .300 magnums at 600 yards.
 
I've seen people using Iron Sights with AKs shooting 575yrds and hitting 24" steel plates with about 4 out of 10 shots.

And that's a cheapo 7.62x39... 300 win mag is a WHOLE different beast!
 
I'd think with an expert shooter and match grade rifle, the cartridge could be pushed to nearly twice that range.
 
Now I can't just pick up my .300 win and hit a quarter at 600. I dont think many people ever could. But if you have a spotter and a 2-3 rounds for figure wind drift. mulitple hits on a 6-8" target is not anywhere near out of the question. It would not be a terrible shot for anyone that has spent some considerable time behind their rifle and has done their homework.
 
Yes I believe it can and even further in the hands of a good shooter with the proper charge and bullet combination. I have a 300 wsm and every year on the opening weekend of hunting season , before opening day we have an open shooting contest on a power line. next to the camp. It's usually around 430-450 yards long most of the time I take the 243 cal win -70. target is a 5-gal water jug. I took the 300 this past year, Water jug was at 436 yards it was ranged, leaning up agaist a wooden pallet. ( just for fun i put a bushnell holographic sight on my 300 this year sighted in 1" low at 100 yards using Fed 130gr ballictic tips factory load ) held 4 in" over the top of the lip of the jug . Hit said jug on the stem about 2" down from top, went through the jug , through the pallet, hit a rock on the ground, ricochet off the rock, flew up in the air backwards and towards the right at around three oclock making a tumbling noise through the air and landing on the ground by the persons foot who is standing behind a 1/2" steel plate size 7ft x 8ft 50 yards to the right of the target (2 pieces together) (drug them down with the ATV ) who walks up and places circles on the hits and calls back to other person in charge on radio on the top of the hill if it was a hit or miss. I, we have been doing this about 32 years and have never had anything at all, Let alone come close to this senario. 35-40 very well experienced shooters and hunters every year. ( I have the bullet from my shell casing that I used that day, boys at the bottom brought it back to me to keep. Top of bullet is cut an ragged, the bottom fits in the casing perfectly like you were about to reload.:eek: So yes the answer to you would be why not, 600 yards isn't all that far. If you judge my word you will have to wait until spring for a pic. Bullet and casing is on the bar in the camp which is snowed in at this time so I would'nt loose it. Good luck with your endevor in extending your ability to reach out an touch somthing
 
If he has his rifle and scope set up correctly, 600 yards with a .300 win mag is not difficult. Should be able to take that combination out much farther. It'll kick significantly more than either a .308 or .30-06, though.

Further, the .308 (the "weakest" of the three) can easily go 800 yards with 168 grain BTHPs, and farther with 175 grainers. 1000+ yards with the .308 is not at all uncommon, even though there are better long-range cartridges.
 
They are not shooting 55 or 62 grain bullets. They are shooting 69 and 80 grain bullets that normally are seated in the brass longer than what will fit in a magazine and are feed into the rifles one at a time from the side.
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They shoot 75s from the magazine too. About 25 of them in 50 seconds. National Trophy Infantry Team match.
 
600 yards is not so bad. It possible with ironsights with many rifles. I have had much fun using my old Lee Enfield in .303 British at 500-600 yards with iron sights on an 18 inch target. The only thing that stopped me shooting longer is not being able to see the target anymore. Some people shoot ironsights out to over a thousand yards. Many more shoot that distance with scopes.

With a scope and .300 Win Mag setup properly it not that hard a shot for a decent shooter who can take into account wind direction, elevation and drop and a decent spotter.
 
Back in the day, folks shot 1,000 yard matches with 1903 Springfields, M1's, and M-14's and open sights.

That 1,000 yard Match accuracy is possible with 30-06 & .308 and iron sights, there is no reason a .300 mag would not do as well or better.

But it all depends on the nut behind the trigger.

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One Summer in either 1986 or 1987, when I was stationed in England, I shot a 600 yard match using a borrowed custom .308 rifle built on a "Swing" action. Using aperture sights and shooting prone I managed 6 bullseyes and 4 slightly out. As I recall, I scored an 88x100-6X. Considering that I rarely shot a rifle in those days - I belonged to a pistol club - I didn't do too badly.

Later I worked my turn in the target pit behind the berms. Each bullet that passed above us cracked wickedly and sounded as if a gun had been fired right next to us. The bullets were still above the speed of sound.

The .308 can be extremely accurate at 600 yards..... and much farther too.
 
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Hi Power shooters consistently shoot 600 yds. using the .223 and iron sights.

They are not shooting 55 or 62 grain bullets. They are shooting 69 and 80 grain bullets that normally are seated in the brass longer than what will fit in a magazine and are feed into the rifles one at a time from the side.
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Except those of us who have done it in military leg matches using issue ammo and issue rifles. I am sure our targets were much larger...
 
I am an average long distance shooter usually 200-400 yds since thats the longest distance I can easily access. One thing I quickly learned is that my .300 win mag can easily outperform my abilities.
 
The German Army sniper rifle is .30OWM. I heard our SF uses .300WM sniper setups as well. I am sure they can shoot well beyond 600m.
 
600 yards with the .300 Winchester magnum in front of a person that knows how to shoot it is a walk in the park. The .300 shoots flatter and has way more punch then either 30-06 or the .308 and both of those can shoot to 600 yards.
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I have a .300 WSM and know that this statement is more than correct.

+1
 
I have no doubt in my mind that a 300wsm could hit a decent sized target at 600 yards but again the real question is "is he capeable"
 
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