metrotps
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Anybody still shoot this?
.308 Norma Mag
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Ridgerunner665
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Ammo is too expensive...heck...even the brass are outrageous.
It is darn fine round though...every bit as good as its twin (the 300 Win Mag)...
It is darn fine round though...every bit as good as its twin (the 300 Win Mag)...
Shawnee
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The .308 Norma Magnum is a good cartridge!!
It was invented to fill the obvious gap between the 7mm/08 and the .350 Remington Magnum.
It was invented to fill the obvious gap between the 7mm/08 and the .350 Remington Magnum.
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NCsmitty
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I have an FN Mauser in 308 Norma Mag. I don't shoot it much any more but it is near the equal of the 300 WinMag. Magnum power in a '06 length case. I still have a couple boxes of virgin Norma brass for it. I have used the third box for all my loads as that Norma brass is tough.
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Strongbad
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Brass isn't that expensive. Just neck down 338 Win Mag and fire form. The 308 Norma mag, barring individual differences in chamber reamers is virtually identical to the 30/338 Win Mag. My father had a custom built 30/338 a few years ago with a light trigger and a heavy barrel. Very accurate rifle. Understandably so since the 30/338 was once used in competition.
Der Verge
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I don't shoot .308 Norma, but I shoot the closest thing to it..... .30-338win. My father has the rifle, so I don't get to shoot it often. Some day though.....
smokemaker
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I thought the .308 Norma was a .30 Newton with a belt.
I agree that the .308 Norma is a wonderful cartridge. It may be obsolete these days, but lotsa far more ridiculous things have been introduced since its retirement. I've always wondered if the .358 Norma mag wouldn't be just about optimal medicine for the larger bears and moose.
72coupe
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I have a Mosin/Nagant 44 rechambered in 308 Norma Mag. A fellow tried to make a head shot on me in January 1969 with it. At that time it was chambered in the standard 7.62X54R. This fellow was less than 25 yards from me and missed so I traded him 20 rounds of 5.56 for his rifle and brought it home.
After I got home I took it to the range and put up a sheet of newpaper at 25 yards and the rifle did not hit it and the fired rounds could not be extracted and the case had to be driven out. The front sight was all the way over to the left side which leads me to the the previous owner didn't practice much with it.
Since the chamber was so pitted I had to find a case large enough to clean up all the pits. I settled on 308 Norma Mag because it is fairly uncommon and you cannot chamber any of the larger magnums in it.
I only shoot handloads in it and I try to keep them under 45,000 psi. Even at that recoil is damaging. A 6 pound rifle shooting a 180 grain bullet at around 3000 fps is brutal.
After I got home I took it to the range and put up a sheet of newpaper at 25 yards and the rifle did not hit it and the fired rounds could not be extracted and the case had to be driven out. The front sight was all the way over to the left side which leads me to the the previous owner didn't practice much with it.
Since the chamber was so pitted I had to find a case large enough to clean up all the pits. I settled on 308 Norma Mag because it is fairly uncommon and you cannot chamber any of the larger magnums in it.
I only shoot handloads in it and I try to keep them under 45,000 psi. Even at that recoil is damaging. A 6 pound rifle shooting a 180 grain bullet at around 3000 fps is brutal.
Float Pilot
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I had a 308 Norma Mag that was built on a 1903A3 action. It was a great cartridge.
As already mentioned, it is basically a 30-338WM. Norma invented the cartridge ,,, or copied the 30-338 in the late 1950s. At the time, you only had a choice of 300 HH, 300 weatherby or 308 Norma Mag.
About 3 or 4 years later, Winchester developed and marketed the 300 Winchester magnum which is very similar in size and performance.
Norma missed the marketing bandwagon by mis-naming the cartridge. Calling anything 308 at the time was just asking for trouble since the fairly new 308 Winchester (7.62 nato) was still being complained about by the old time hunters and rifleman.
If they would have called it the 300 Norma Magnum it would have sold much better and Winchester would have never had a reason to introduce a nearly identical cartridge.
The same with the wonderful 358 Norma Mag. If only they would have called it the 360 Alaskan or some darn thing... Instead, people confused it with the 358 Winchester.
You can make 308 Norma brass by resizing 338 Win Mag brass. Maybe even by messing with 300 Win Mag brass. Brass was a buck a round back when I sold mine.
As already mentioned, it is basically a 30-338WM. Norma invented the cartridge ,,, or copied the 30-338 in the late 1950s. At the time, you only had a choice of 300 HH, 300 weatherby or 308 Norma Mag.
About 3 or 4 years later, Winchester developed and marketed the 300 Winchester magnum which is very similar in size and performance.
Norma missed the marketing bandwagon by mis-naming the cartridge. Calling anything 308 at the time was just asking for trouble since the fairly new 308 Winchester (7.62 nato) was still being complained about by the old time hunters and rifleman.
If they would have called it the 300 Norma Magnum it would have sold much better and Winchester would have never had a reason to introduce a nearly identical cartridge.
The same with the wonderful 358 Norma Mag. If only they would have called it the 360 Alaskan or some darn thing... Instead, people confused it with the 358 Winchester.
You can make 308 Norma brass by resizing 338 Win Mag brass. Maybe even by messing with 300 Win Mag brass. Brass was a buck a round back when I sold mine.
Bartkowski
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Are you saying that your mosin is 6 pounds?
72coupe
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Bartkowski, I have never actually weighed it but it is quite light. It has some sort of tropical wood home made stock. I assume that it was made by the previous owner. Basically it is a peice of junk but it has meaning to me.
It gives me the right to say, the last guy that tried a head shot on me is still dead.
It gives me the right to say, the last guy that tried a head shot on me is still dead.
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