.308 reloading question

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hvychev77

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So, i reloaded some .308's today... No issues until i went to chamber a round in my rifle, and realized i probably should've turned my FL sizing die in about a quarter turn more. The bolt gets a little snug when closing. My question is are these rounds safe to shoot? Everything is trimmed and bullet seated to the correct length, by the book. I'm also on the lower end of the scale in regards to the powder charge, 41g of H4895. So, in essence, are they safe to shoot or do i need to pull them?

Thanks in advance!!
 
My question is are these rounds safe to shoot?

As long as the powder charge is not over pressure, you won't blow up your rifle.

Here is an image of a case gage, these are extremely helpful in setting up sizing dies. This one has a cut out so you can see what is going on. Of note, if the case neck protrudes up into the throat area, that is dangerous. If the case neck is pinched by the throat, that will pinch the bullet, and that will raise pressures. Before I learned that the first firing of any cartridge results in the greatest case length expansion; I assumed I could size several times before the cases needed trimming. I was wrong, this resulted in blown primers and excessive pressures because the case neck was pinched, as it protruded into the throat. If you notice, I have lots of clearance between the throat and my case neck. Trim length is a safety consideration.

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I am of the opinion that pushing the shoulder back about 0.003" each time when full length resizing, is desirable. I am of the opinion that one of the most important considerations in a magazine fed, or even a single shot fireman, is the ability to chamber and extract a round. Not everyone sees it this way, particularly Hatcherites and Ackleyites, but I want the fired case to extract. Those knuckleheads want the maximum case to chamber friction, actually believing that the case is supposed to cling to the pores of the chamber, flow into the cracks, sort of like ivy on a brick wall. I want the case to come off the chamber walls without any clinging, or crack flowing at all. Having clearance between the case and chamber before firing, will likely lead to a clearance after firing, assuming the cartridge is not over pressure. You can more or less see this in this diagram.

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If you start with a crush fit case, after firing, you are likely to have a stuck case. While this is not "dangerous" in terms of pressure, it does convert your magazine fed repeating rifle into a magazine fed, single shot. Probably requiring a ram rod to extract the case. I noticed the range tower at CMP Talladega had a cleaning rod, enough shooters, like myself, had a stuck case, and for got their cleaning rod. I usually have one in my scope stand, but I did not bring that scope stand that day. I cannot count the number of shooters, who during a rifle match, needed that cleaning rod. because they had a stuck case.
 
Thanks guys. This is kind of what i was thinking. I do have some tools to determine how much i'm bumping back the shoulder. Unfortunately, my lock ring slipped on my sizing die, and i thought i was good. I failed to chamber the empty brass to see how the bolt closed before sizing, trimming, priming my cases... and then charged a few! The brass has been trimmed to proper length, and the overall cartridge length is where it should be too, it's just a bit tight at the shoulder when closing the bolt down. I did re-size a few after adjusting my die in, and they slipped right in/out without issue... Thanks again! Cheers, hvychev77
 
If you can close the bolt then you can shoot them. Play around with the sizing die. Size a round, drop it in the chamber to see if you can close the bolt. If not and/or hard to close turn the sizing die down some. Keep playing with it until you get where you want to be in the closing feel. I got a xp 100 in 7-08 that has a larger chamber. The xp 100 brass in my Remington 700 in 7-08 will not let me close the bolt. I got to bump the shoulder more for the 700.
 
If your using the Hornady rings the only time there going to move is when you loosen them. My guess your using Lee dies, which is a problem with there o-ring locking system.
 
If you don't put a small piece of lead shot or a spitball etc under the brass screw on RCBS lock rings those bad boys can move too.
 
If you don't put a small piece of lead shot or a spitball etc under the brass screw on RCBS lock rings those bad boys can move too.

They also maul up the threads if you crank them down enough to keep them from moving. Almost all my dies wear Hornady lock rings...
 
Y'all are all over this like a dirty shirt!! Yes, i am using RCBS dies, with the RCBS rings... and I have already went on Amazon and purchased a new set of Hornady lock rings to boot!! Thanks for all input folks... I did re-size a second 50 pcs. of brass yesterday after adjusting my die... and, yes, they did chamber much easier!
 
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