32 Remington Help

[Wis-Harpo]

I have a Rem Model 14 pump in 32 Rem Caliber. I have the dies and brass, but can not find the correct bullets. The Hornady 165 FTX and 170 Flat Nose have the cannelure in the wrong location for crimping. The distance from the tip or meplat is too long. The Speer 170 HCFN has a cannelure close to the right location. I have trimmed some of my brass to the minimum of 2.030 inches , and the Speer cannelure is close enough to crimp. Will the Missouri Bullet 32-4 170 grain flat tip plated bullet work???

 

[rcmodel]

I would buy all the bullets you can get of one type.

And then trim the brass so it crimps to the correct length.

That's what Hornady does with the rubber tip FTX bullet.

They cut the brass shorter to make the OAL correct.

rc

 

[Wis-Harpo]

32 trimming

I thought of trimming the brass shorter, but I was not sure if it would do any harm to the chamber. I have reloaded other calibers, 22 Hornet-243- 7mm Mauser- 303 British- 30-06- and 45-70. I have always trimmed to the required length. I guess that I needed another's input.

 

[Malamute]

It shouldnt hurt the chamber. I'd just be sure to first clean the chamber well if you shoot any factory ammo or ammo with the case full length.

Besides the common current examples we have, it was considered OK to shoot 30-06 rounds in 30-03 chambers when the correct ammo wasnt available. The only difference was the neck length.

 

[Wis-Harpo]

32 trimming

Some of the brass I have are reloads in a white box with 32 Rem stamped on it. I shot 3 of them, and all 3 had cracked necks, and the primer was set back about 2 thousands. I had shot 5 factory loads from the 1960's previously with NO problem. I used an inertia bullet puller on 5 reloaded cartridges. All 5 were 4-8 thousands over maximum case length, and the powder charge varied by .5 grains. I know that the case length and powder weight variations were minor, but not if the chamber length was short- or the powder load was at maximum. The powder charge and type were not listed on the box. The rest of the 17 reloads will be pulled, and the powder discarded. The petunias need fertilizing.

As my Dad always said--- "The impossible just takes a little longer."

 

[otisrush]

Please report back and let us know how this goes. I have this exact same gun in the same caliber. Reloading for it is definitely on my radar - but it is on a place on my radar that puts it at least 5+ years in the future. I'm not ready to tackle it now - but I will at some point.

What if brass is hard to come by? I have some factory ammo for it but just a small amount - and it's looking kind of sketchy. I've save the brass I've shot. I seem to recall reading somewhere (I somehow got this in my head) that some other more-common brass can be used to make .32 Remington. Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thanks.

OR

 

[Wis-Harpo]

32 rem

Do not wait too long. I bought my Redding reloading dies from Midway USA. about 4 months ago. I think they were about $79. They are now $90.99 for Redding, and $150.99 for RCBS. They also had shell holders, and Forster case trimmer pilots. The trouble with the Forster pilot was, it was listed to fit the 32 Rem, and 8 mm. The pilot was a very tight fit inside the case mouth. I took a fine knife sharpening stone, held it on the pilot ( which was extended away from the cutter) and turned the crank until I took off about 1 thousands of an inch. Now it fits perfectly. The longer you wait, the prices will go up. The bullet selection will also go down.

 

[Jesse Heywood]

when loading jacketed bullets I use a taper crimp. And with a taper crimp, the crimp groove can be ignored, just crimp where you need to.

 

[Sunray]

Forget the cannelure and load for the max OAL. I'd use the Hornady 170 FP.
Just having the brass puts you way ahead of most people playing with .32 Rem. Midway shows Quality brand only and out of stock no back order. Nothing at all at Grafs.
Trim to is 2.045". Max case length is 2.050". Max OAL with bullet 2.525". According to my old Lyman book. There's 170 jacketed and 164 and 184 grain cast data if you want it.

 

[Wis-Harpo]

32 Rem

First, how do I get a taper crimp die for a 32 caliber cartridge. Second I pulled some bullets with an inertia bullet puller. Sometimes it took 5 whacks, other times it took over 40. I had loaded some dummy rounds to check out where the cannelure came in reference to the OAL. When I pulled those bullets to shorten the case length, they took about 10 whacks.
So either I need a taper crimp die, or do I let the tension on the case neck hold the bullet. The 32 Rem is not a hard kicking gun, but there is pressure on the bullet in the tubular magazine.
By the way I have about 120 brass, either factory loads, reloads ( to be pulled), and once fired brass.

 

[Malamute]

I dont know of anyone making taper crimp dies for rifle cartridges, but theres a lot I dont know.

What is the objective of a taper crimp die for you? They are usually used in auto loading pistol cartridges that headspace on the case mouth, though there may well be other uses.

The regular roll crimp die should work fine if theres a canelure to crimp into, or even a light crimp with no canelure. The Lee factory crimp die will crimp the case mouth into a bullet even with no canelure from what I understand, though I havent used one. I'd want a pretty secure crimp on loads used in a tube magazine.

 

[Jesse Heywood]

Get a collet style bullet puller. Mounts in your press, makes short work of pulling jacketed (not lead) bullets. I have RCBS.

For a taper crimp die on 32 cal. I use a die from 7.62 x 39 set.

 

[FROGO207]

If you can find any 30 Remington brass it can be necked up to 32. Just like 30-30 being made into 32 SPL are done. Not sure about 35 REM though. I find this old brass/rounds at gun shows now and again but 30 REM was more popular locally I recall. I would think that any bullet made for the 32 SPL would work for you as well. Further I have loaded 30 REM using 30-30 data with good success. I would think that using 32 SPL data might be worth investigating. I would roll crimp if at all possible as well.

 

[lauderdale]

Yeeesh! 35 rem. on my radar. 1 box of old ammo on collectable shelf.

 

[Wis-Harpo]

32 Rem

The 25-30-and 32 Rem all have the same parent case, just different neck sizes. The 35 Rem is an entirely different case. Put the 35 bullet into the other 3 cases, and there would be hardly any shoulder to headspace on.
To answer the question " Why taper crimp". With a taper crimp, the cannalure could be anywhere, and not used with the tapered crimp. All of the available bullets have the crimp located for the 32 Win Special which is still loaded . Maybe because of Cowboy Shooting.
I looked up the neck dimensions for the 7.62x39 so a tapered neck die would work. The outside neck of the 7.62x39 is .335, and the 32 Rem is .344.So the 7.62x39 neck is .009 smaller. Is that too much of a difference to use??? Unless someone has actually done it.
I am leaning toward the Speer 170 grain flat nose, because with shortening the case slightly below the 2.030 the cannelure will work. And as suggested clean the chamber before shooting any full length or factory loads. By the way some of the factory once fired cases were below the 2.030 minimum. They were about 2.025.