Deanimator
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+1.Damn that was a long trip around the barn.
As they said during WWII, "Was this trip necessary?"
+1.Damn that was a long trip around the barn.
Oh I'm just a humble observer, next time might not take as long iffin you don't spend so much time swimming the lagoon.that no one forced you to take
Basically what you wanted was nonexistent at a price worth doing, which you were told early on.well, it gets out of hand when i say 25 or a 32 and have people suggesting 327 federal, and 38 special..
Don't try to pass the blame off on others when you yourself were suggesting various wild cat cartridges from cut down 9mm or 5.7 brasswell, it gets out of hand when i say 25 or a 32 and have people suggesting 327 federal, and 38 special.. if you want to whine and complain about some "trip around the barn" you can blame the people who suggested that crap.. or heck, the FN five seven suggestion.. because thats sooooooooooo along the lines of a 25acp or a 32.. or all the revolver suggestions after explicitly saying i wanted an auto, and one that could be suppressed
im not the one that took it from a 25 or 32 and made it into 327 federal revolvers and 5.7x28mm five-seven pistols
hmm, wait a moment, just did a bit of a cost-analysis on .25acp.. buying 100 rounds of loaded 25acp and then the costs for powder, primers, and bullets to load them another 400 times vs the cost of a 500 round brick of .22lr
if i cast the lead bullets the total for 500 rounds comes out to .078 cents a round.. and $0.174/rd if i include jacketed bullets in the cost.. the performance of which surpasses the hottest hyperperformance .22lr ammunition at only 2/3 the cost with jacketed bullets, and about 1/4 the price if i cast my own
Yep, little buggers just disappear into thin air. Well, .32 does, I have never had a .25.you have not accounted for case loss with 25 ACP or 32 ACP.
That's about what I pay for my cast bullet loads with my .22 Hornet. I use a Pat Marlins Checkmaker to make gas checks out of coke cans and get my lead free in the form of wheelweights from my tire dealer, which holds costs way down. I get a cartridge that costs less them bulk pack .22 LR, but with 50% more velocity and better accuracy and reliability.hmm, wait a moment, just did a bit of a cost-analysis on .25acp.. buying 100 rounds of loaded 25acp and then the costs for powder, primers, and bullets to load them another 400 times vs the cost of a 500 round brick of .22lr
if i cast the lead bullets the total for 500 rounds comes out to .078 cents a round.. and $0.174/rd if i include jacketed bullets in the cost.. the performance of which surpasses the hottest hyperperformance .22lr ammunition at only 2/3 the cost with jacketed bullets, and about 1/4 the price if i cast my own
so even when buying .25acp as a source of brass, the cartridge itself is so cheap to load taking up about $2 worth of gunpowder to reload 400 times that it does become significantly cheaper than .22lr with better performance (2 grains of powder charge, this means i can load 3,500 rounds of .25acp on a single pound of powder)
for 32acp, the cost of already loaded ammo as a source of brass, the price of primers and the price of jacketed bullets are all the same, the difference is over the 400 reloads the 32acp would cost me $1 more in powder.. so these rounds are still a heck of a lot cheaper than the higher performing 22s
Yes, that's doable. I have a Hammond Game Getter, a "subcaliber device" which comes in a box about the size of a box of .30 caliber bullets. It includes a sizer, simply a disk with a tapered, highly polished hole, which I use to size 00 buckshot to shoot in my .30-06, using nail-setting blanks as the propellant.hmm, could you actually load a .25acp with lead shot?.. like what if you got a couple sizes larger than necessary and sized it down so you have some surface area on the sides for the lips to grab onto it? that may be a lot cheaper than buying bullets while also offering a less labor intensive solution than casting
There are also some exotic 32 cal Olympic type pistols out there. Walther's GSP comes to mind for use as a soft lead shooting auto loader.
For small game, I like a 148 grain wadcutter loaded over 2.7 grains of Bullseye.
Can you seat 9x18 in a Luger case?You might also consider a 9x18 (9mm Makarov).
There's plenty of good inexpensive guns around (I have a FEG PA63). Brass is easy to make from 9mm Luger. You'll use a bit more lead but brass is easy.
Penny wise and dollar foolish, buy another gun, dies, moulds, more expensive brass to save a few pennies on lead and powder.