.357 home defense ammo

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What is a good home defense load for a .357 out of a SW Model 66 (2 inch barrel)? Looking for a balance of stopping power while minimizing the worrying about shooting through multiple walls or out of mine and into another vinyl sided house in the nieghborhood.
 
I load my M60 up with Remington Golden Saber 125gr. .357

I tried it with my regular load (Speer Gold Dot 158gr .357) that I use in my K-frames, but it was way too snappy in the M60. I still have to hold onto the J-frame with the 125 gr load, but it is not nearly as bad. I can keep all the holes in the center of the target at 15 yards double action, so I'm happy with it.

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oops I just saw that you have a M66, not a 60, sorry. Well out of a barrel that short I'd go with the speer 135gr .357 gold dot, it is specifically made for a short barrel.

Any pistol bullet will go through several layers of drywall.
 
Pretty much any pistol bullet is going to punch through several walls.

My current HD gun is a Ruger P90 .45, but when I used a Service Six .357 for this role, I loaded it with Winchester .38 Special 158 grain LSWCHPs, AKA the FBI load. .38 has a lot less blast and flash -- especially in a short barrel -- but is still pretty effective.
 
I load with .38 special +P. For mag rounds, look for one of the newish loads with the flash suppressants. Normal 125 grain full power loads have a fireball from hell from a 2" especially. That blinding flash in the middle of the night ain't good for proper night vision. You'll be lucky to hear the bad guy after that, too.:eek: .38 is bad enough indoors, but at least the faster powders don't flash/bang with magnum ferocity. The newer loads use a flash suppressant that tames the flash. I imagine they're still loud. No way around that, well, short of muffs.
 
I have the Speer Gold Dot 135 grain +P. It will have a bit less muzzle flash and noise and is designed to expand out of the 2" barrell. Many will not, at least not reliably.
 
For a 2" barrel I'd go with the Speer 135 grain 38 special +P. I don't think that .357 magnum loads are the way to go indoors with their flash and boom, not that any caliber shot indoors is going to be easy on ypur ears. Also consider getting a 4" barreled revolver when you can.
 
I'm going to swim against the current on this one...

The revolver is my favorite type of handgun. I have 2 short barreled snubbies; one is a lightweight and one is a steel frame. Muzzle flash and audible report are very important, but controllability and repeatability of 2nd and 3rd shots is also important. I have chosen the following loads based on feedback from retired LEO's who relied on snubbies in their career. I will also explain why.

Short barreled revolvers, either .38 spl or .357 mag : Hornady 125 grain XTP jacketed hollowpoint .38 spl (non +p). This is the closest load commercially available to the esteemed .38 spl 125 grain Nyclad Lead Hollowpoint load (originally developed by Smith & Wesson and later made by Federal; this load is out of production) that allows good penetration and good expansion out of short barreled snubbies. This Nyclad load was nicknamed the "Chiefs' Special" load after the original "Chiefs' Special" series of .38 snubbies made by Smith & Wesson.

The Hornady load allows good penetration since it has a shallow hollowpoint with controlled expansion (it penetrates faster than it expands) to reach vital organs. The non +p loading reduces flashbang and muzzle flip so you can gain your senses back and place 2nd and 3rd shots with greater control...
it does you no good to have a powerful magnum in your house if you can't place the shots where they can do the most damage on a perpitrator. :cool:

I will admit that I have not extensively researched or used the lower flash/lower recoil +p or magnum loadings that are being offered by Speer so I cannot offer reasons to use them. :eek:

4" or 6" barreled .357's: I will venture into 38 +p's here due to the longer barrel allowing more efficient powder burn and less fireball at the end of the barrel. Traditionally, I will use Winchester Super X 158 grain Lead Semiwadcutter Hollowpoints + p. Remington also makes a version. (AKA: the FBI load, the Chicago load)

This load was developed for use by institutions that only allowed .38's or those that didn't want to buy .357's. This load was designed for use in 4" barrels due to a slower burning powder and gives performance above regular .38's and below .357's. The LSWCHP is much better than the feeble 158 grain Lead Round Nose that used to be an LEO standard. If you follow the % of one shot stops reported out there, this load is equal to those rates of .45 ACP hardball. (@67%) :neener:

The Winchester LSWCHP bullet uses a higher amount of antimony (hardens the lead alloy) to reduce barrel and forcing cone leading and may not expand well if shot from a short barreled snubbie. The Remington LSWCHP bullet is softer and more often recommended for use in shorter barreled guns since it should expand at lower velocities. :scrutiny:

I have found that the Remington loads are less precisely crimped and that the bullets may be seated at different heights in the same box. Because the crimping is not as tight as on the Winchester loads, there is a better chance of bullets pulling from their casings in a lightweight revolver due to greater recoil transfer into the bullets. (less weight in the gun to "soak" up the recoil) :cuss: :cuss:
 
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I favor the Remington .38+p all lead hollow point 158gr. Supposedly Remington uses a softer lead than Federal and Winchester, though I've never verified this, just read it somewhere. Might help to minimize your wall penetration.

I also though load up Remmy 158gr. .357mag semi-jack hp's too for sd. Just depends on my mood. Blowing thru walls is not a major concern for us in our current location.
 
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