John
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Will .357 moon clips only accept .357 ammo, and not .38 Special?
.357 Moon Clips
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_N4Z_
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ummmmmm...
the .357magnum and .38specials are a rimmed cartridge.
no moon clip needed. more than likely no such moonclip exists.
could be wrong, but i've never heard of such a thing.
the .357magnum and .38specials are a rimmed cartridge.
no moon clip needed. more than likely no such moonclip exists.
could be wrong, but i've never heard of such a thing.
ChevellRCR
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You can have the cylinder machined to accept moon clips. I am going to have this done on my dan wesson cylinder. I am only planning to use it with 38 Specials myself. Never heard that it wouldnt work.
Brian Williams
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If the gun will run with 357s, a moonclipped gun will run with both 357 and 38 special
John
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Brian Williams said:
The question in the OP was prompted by the fact that I have a new S&W Performance Center 327 .357 Magnum in which I intend to only fire .38 Special ammo.
I got the large frame 327 to replace an AirLite 342PD .38 Special -- because the recoil of sustained firing of .38 Specials in a 12 oz. gun was getting to be too much for my 73 year old hand/wrist/arm.
In the box with the new 327 are three moon clips, which I cannot figure out how to use with my .38 ammo, because -- among other things I do not understand (the moon clips are totally unlike speed loaders) -- the .38 cartridges will not fit into the eight openings of the moon clips; the cartridges are just a tad bit larger in diameter than the holes in the moon clips.
dbarale
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The 38/357 moonclips can be a little picky. Try a different brand of ammo/brass as they are not all cut to the same specs in the rim area.
Also, and I apologize for stating the obvious, the rounds in a moonclip should be forced in from the sides instead of pushed in form the end like a speedloader. I do not know ow to explain this any better.
Also, and I apologize for stating the obvious, the rounds in a moonclip should be forced in from the sides instead of pushed in form the end like a speedloader. I do not know ow to explain this any better.
John
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dbarale said:
I understand what you mean by 'forced in from the sides instead of pushed in from the end like a speedloader'.
I have not been able to force eight .38 cartridges into the moon clip; the most I have been able to insert is four.
I prefer to stick with Winchester WinClean ammo, so perhaps I'll leave the moon clips in the box, to be puzzled over by whoever inherits the gun.
Brian Williams
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I have had two guns converted to run with moonclips, the best I have found to use was Federal and Winchester ammo or Starline brass. Sometimes it takes a bit to force the clips into the slot just next to the rim. You will be missing the best this gun has to offer, the speed of emptying and the quickness of the reload is incredible.
You will not find good speedloaders for this and the moonclips are the best. Go to moonclips.com and look at the tools for putting the cartridges on the clips, for a demooner, get a piece of 1/2 inch conduit or copper pipe about 6 to 8 inches long and on one end cut about 1/2 of it off for a depth of 1/8 inch. With this tool just slide the pipe over the cartridge and fit the notch on the moonclip and twist, the case pops out and will slide down the pipe, put your brass bucket or vibratory cleaner under it and you will have everything in one pot.
You mightwant to take a little off of the moonclips where the cartridge pops in, it might let them pop in a little better.
Also get some more clips. loading up 10 or 20 before you go to the range makes for quick loading and brass retreival.
You will not find good speedloaders for this and the moonclips are the best. Go to moonclips.com and look at the tools for putting the cartridges on the clips, for a demooner, get a piece of 1/2 inch conduit or copper pipe about 6 to 8 inches long and on one end cut about 1/2 of it off for a depth of 1/8 inch. With this tool just slide the pipe over the cartridge and fit the notch on the moonclip and twist, the case pops out and will slide down the pipe, put your brass bucket or vibratory cleaner under it and you will have everything in one pot.
You mightwant to take a little off of the moonclips where the cartridge pops in, it might let them pop in a little better.
Also get some more clips. loading up 10 or 20 before you go to the range makes for quick loading and brass retreival.
John
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Many thanks, Brian.
Ranch products makes all the moon clips for Smith. I have 3 PKS of 8 shot moon clips with 8 in a pack that I will sell for $12 each shipped. I also have a tool that removes the fired case for $1.50. I have moon clips for just about every gun that uses moon clips and all made by Ranch Products. (no Tarus)
jim
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Depending on the ammo maker, they can be pretty tough to shove in there.
Also, TK sells better moonclips than come w/ the gun...http://www.moonclips.com/
Also, TK sells better moonclips than come w/ the gun...http://www.moonclips.com/
_N4Z_
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Well I've now learned something new with this thread.
Interesting.
Also sounds like it can be/is, a hassle.
Interesting.
Also sounds like it can be/is, a hassle.
Encoreman
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Hi N4Z, Believe me it ain't a hassle, I hav a S&W 610 that shoots 10mm or .40 cal in moon clips and it is a breeze. It may sound a bit of a hassle, but it is a delight. Yesterday I was at an IPSC match, shot 6 shots at 3 targets, reloaded and shot 6 more in 8.71 seconds. That was faster that some of the guys shooting bottom feeders or (semi-auto). Se ya mac
John,
Try the "Moonsetter" tool shown here: https://www.moonclips.com/cart/shopdisplaycategories.asp?id=37&cat=S&W+-+Loading+Tools+
I use one for my 627. It really saves your fingers. At $50, they aren't cheap, but the convenience is well worth it.
Try the "Moonsetter" tool shown here: https://www.moonclips.com/cart/shopdisplaycategories.asp?id=37&cat=S&W+-+Loading+Tools+
I use one for my 627. It really saves your fingers. At $50, they aren't cheap, but the convenience is well worth it.
_N4Z_
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That's OK, I'll stick with my speedloaders.
Moonies with a 9mm, 10mm, .40, .45, or other such auto round makes sense. But I still don't quite understand the attraction to moonclipping a rimmed round. Kind of counter to the design, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
Just had never heard of such a thing.
Moonies with a 9mm, 10mm, .40, .45, or other such auto round makes sense. But I still don't quite understand the attraction to moonclipping a rimmed round. Kind of counter to the design, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
Just had never heard of such a thing.
John
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rbmcmjr said:
They are listed on the web site specific to gun models. My gun is not on the list. How do I know I would be ordering the right Moonsetter for my gun?
Also, the web site speaks of strippers and mandrels. What else is needed for a complete tool set?
dbarale
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The one listed for the 627 will fit your gun.
Where in NC are you?
Where in NC are you?
John
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dbarale said:
Thanks.
Lillington, Harnett County (half way between Raleigh and Fayetteville).
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