Just a update on my .38 special load. I have tryed almost every load mentioned above, with no bad results, all proved highly accurate in my .38, I just settled on a load which gave me exceptional accuracy, it is 2/10ths of a grain less than one mentioned above since that was what my powder measure threw, I just shot 5 shots from 15 yards in a.457 group, outside to outside was .817,,,THANKS to everyone who offered their knowledge and load data.
The load I have settled on consists of 4.2 grains of winchester 231 and a 158 grain SWC ignited with a federal primer and COAL of 1.440
This group was fired with open sights from a sand bag rest useing my Colt Diamondback 4" revolver......A diopter helped these old tired eyes focus on the sights...Thanks again for everyones input...xring44