#4 Buck Results?

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  1. JCooperfan1911

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    Has anyone here ever used 12 gauge #4 buckshot 2 3/4” 27 pellet loads for hunting varmints to medium sized game and if so, what are your thoughts and results?

    God bless,

    Dale
     
  2. alsaqr

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    i've never used that particular load. However, i've used 20 and 12 gauge #4 buckshot on called in coyotes and small pigs. It's a good killer on coyotes to about 50 yards.
     
  3. Random 8

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    I've used a very similar load on coyotes, and it was effective at 50 yards or so. My go-to load, which I prefer, is buffered lead BB. Seems to just dump them a little firmer with the higher pattern density. As far as I know, such a load is strictly a handloading proposition. Some friends have used Hevi-shot "dead coyote" and they claim it is devastating on the varmints.
     
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  4. milsurpguy

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    Oh yeah number 4 buck is pretty brutal on small and medium critters.
    It's like shooting a wall of lead at them.
    Yeah number 4 buck is hard to find and BB is impossible unless I load them.
    If you want a steady supply of number 4 buck, best bet is to load it.
     
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  5. Patocazador

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    BBs are (were) readily available in steel shells but those would have to be 3" or 3 1/2" shells to do any good with steel. #4 buckshot seems to be unpopular and, therefore, hard to find.
     
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  6. .455_Hunter

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    I believe the old standby 2.75" lead BB loads have been effectively discontinued, even if still listed in the catalogs. I bought a few boxes of Federal Premium about 10 years ago and that was the last I saw any on the shelves. The market forces of varmint control and esoteric two-legged defense don't counteract the prohibition on waterfowl use.
     
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  7. entropy

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    I and some friends used everything from birdshot to 00 Buck on a pack of feral dogs, and #4 Buck was included in the mix. Naturally, the birdshot was only immediately lethal to the dogs at about 10 yards or less We were sitting on top of a hunting shack (old trailer), and they had been harassing us. We went up on the roof with our shotguns after setting some bait (mostly garbage with a pound of hambuger in it) and waited. About 10 PM, they came in, about 20 of them, everything from terriers to Labs. The bigger stuff, 00, 1 Buck, 4 Buck, T, F, BBB, etc., down to about #4 shot dispatched the dogs well with head or chest hits out as far as we could see them. (Only two of the 5 of us were good shots on moving targets) The birdshot would make them yelp and back off for a bit, but they'd start back in. We whittled them down to about 5 dogs before they scattered and ran. I still remember shooting a beautiful black Lab, wish I didn't have to, but they were not afraid of people.
     
  8. earlthegoat2

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    If by medium game you mean deer then yes #4 is quite lethal at 25 yards and less. I have never used it on anything else.

    My preferred buckshot load for deer is #1 though. It gives the best compromise between pellet size and count in a 2 3/4” hull.
     
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  9. Dibbs

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    We all swear by the 2-3/4-- #4 Turkey loads...
     
  10. Patocazador

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    #4 or #4 buckshot??
     
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  11. milsurpguy

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    I was talking about real lead bb not the boring steel ones.
    When I load them I use lead BB from ballisticproducts dot com and they're not cheap.
     
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  12. Dibbs

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    #4. We have it, in Turkey Loads.

    What's "#4 Buckshot" ?
     
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    .24 caliber pellets. I believe they are popular for antipersonnel use in the LE circles.
     
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    It seems #3 is the typical size for 20 gauge. Not a LOT of difference in pellet size between 3 and 4, and more power from a 12 gauge. Does this seem reasonable? Seriously asking.
     
  15. Dibbs

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    I was always given to understand #2 Shot was "buckshot" . Sorry, just never heard of "#4 Buckshot", before.
     
  16. entropy

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    shot size.jpg

    As you can see, No. 4 Buckshot is larger than #4 birdshot.
     
  17. Captcurt

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    No. 4 Buck is awesome for home defense. I doubt if the best surgeon in the country would be able to help anyone that was shot inside 25 yards.
     
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  18. MacAR

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    Over the years, I've used #4 Buck in my 16 gauges to good effect on deer. Usually, the range was under 50 yards during drives. I'm not sure how many are in a 16 gauge hull, but there seems to be plenty. Also used it on 'yotes, feral dogs, and pigs enough to know that it's a killer out to about 50 yards; any further and it looses it's thump. For varmints, I have (very few) 12 gauge 2 3/4" shells loaded with lead bbs; 1 1/8th oz if memory serves. They were made by a company called Melior, and I've not been able to find them again but would gladly buy a case if I could find them. They do a number on smaller varmints like possums, coons, and foxes. Also adequate on feral dogs if you're close enough. I have also used lead #2's on the same critters. 1 1/2oz of those in a 12 gauge do a number on whatever they hit out to about 50 yards; pretty heavy charge though if you're not expecting it and likely not for use in older guns. I have about 1/2 a box of those left; they were goose loads from back in "the day".

    Mac
     
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    I used to load up steel air rifle bb's in 2 3/4 in shells Iirc 72 -76 fit in the shell. If you reload you could find some 31 or 36 cal round ball for muzzle loaders and load them.
     
  20. amd6547

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    Hornady makes a “Varmint Express” #4 Buck load which use their version of Flitecontrol, called Versatite…it shoots very well indeed.
    As for #4 Buck being “unpopular and hard to find”…before the current ammopocalypse, #4 Buck was easy to get. 00 and #4 Buck were all I could find. It was #1 Buck I had a hard time finding.
     
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  21. jdh

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    The 00 I’ve found has been the un-buffered soft lead. Shot ok for practice, not sure I’d trust it for social use.
     
  22. Meeks36

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    It’s what I keep for home defense. Wouldn’t have a problem using for deer. 20 yards or less. Neighbor shot feral dogs with #4 buck. Worked like a charm.
     
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  23. GooseGestapo

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    I’ve used #4 buck on an assortment of game.
    Once used it on the drivers side window of a ‘69 Buick Electra of a fleeing convict that rammed a roadblock of patrol cars. The #4B didn’t penetrate the window, but it took the ER doctor 3hrs to pick all the glass from his face and hand. (He shouldn’t have pointed that .38S&W handejector at me...).
    I used #1 or 00-buck after that...
    Rio brand ammunition loads a #1 Buck load in 20ga. I’ve been loading.31” round ball 10-pellet load in a 20ga. VERY effective on deer to 40yds. I also have a Lee mold for #4. It’s good for 30yds but lacks penetration of the #1 (.31”rb). 20ga holds 22 pellets. 2-3/4” shell.
     
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  24. Riomouse911

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    I’m also a fan of #1 Buck myself... I use it in 16 and 12 gauges for HD duties. :thumbup:

    Stay safe.
     
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  25. milsurpguy

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    Bird shot will still kill up close. There's plenty if pictures on the Internet and once you see them, you can't unseen them.
     
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