40S&W Reolads
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I have used both 180g and 155g. I like them both.
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Blacklabelz
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Whatever I can find that's copper plated and cheap.
Usually that means I reload 155g. However, a few weekends ago I found some dirt cheap 165 RNFMJ, and now I'm reloading that.
Usually that means I reload 155g. However, a few weekends ago I found some dirt cheap 165 RNFMJ, and now I'm reloading that.
LiveLife
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Probably 180/155 gr in the past years but 165 gr has become increasingly popular in recent years.
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most LE depts ive dealt with shoot 180's. i personally prefer the 165 due to the balance between speed and power, so to speak.
I have hardcast 180 gr lead flat point bullets. I want to reload some nice stout loads for a woods backup gun. 17 rounds of 40 S&W should do the trick if the need arises.
Anyone know where I could get some info on good loads? Can I use JHP info for hardcast?
Anyone know where I could get some info on good loads? Can I use JHP info for hardcast?
possum
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i have reloaded all the different weights, but i get a good deal on bulk 155gr lead, so i have been reloading that for years now.
LiveLife
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You should use jacketed load data for JHP as hardcast lead load data will be lower.
I recommend powder manufacturers' websites:
Hodgdon/Winchester/IMR - http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Alliant - http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Accurate - http://www.accuratepowder.com/reloading.htm
Ramshot - http://www.ramshot.com/powders/loadguide/Ramshot Load Guide V4.3b.pdf
vitahi vhiorui - http://www.lapua.com/index.php?id=1195
jleyring
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i use mostly 180 gr bullets. It changes from FMJ, to HP, to Lead and back. For load info hodgdon website is great if you dont have a book. I like to look at a few sources and see what each manufactuer says to load, then decide from there.
RealGun
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rhoggman said:
I don't believe a flat point bullet is what you want for threats from dangerous animals. You write to seem more confident than you probably should be. I think you want defensive ammo that you purchased, or you are going to get some good hollow points to load. I don't think you could or should do it without spending some money.
RealGun
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I think that's it exactly, but I would say that in reference to SD ammo that I bought, not practice ammo that I reloaded. For practice, I want subsonic and controlled recoil, so that will be the 180.janobles14 said:
No really sure how to address this, but hollow point pistol ammo is not always the greatest thing when it comes to hunting. When you are hunting, or trying to protect yourself from small black bear you want maximum penetration.
Admittedly 40 S&W is not exactly the greatest thing for black bear defense either. It is convenient though. Hardcast lead penetrates, and sometimes barely even deforms when passing through tissue.
A hot loaded 40 S&W w/ 180 gr hardcast lead should put deer down cleanly. At close ranges (10 - 15) I prefer to shoot deer with pistols. Last year I did this with stout 9mm loads, but this year I want to move up to .40 S&W.
Anyways I am looking for good velocity. I will probably just work up a load myself but was kind of looking for good advice on a starting point.
armyofmunn
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Has anyone used 165gr Rainier with Unique power? If so what’s your recipe?
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RealGun
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Rainier Ballistics website guidance on load data
Select the load data link in the upper left. I could quote it but don't believe I am allowed. Basically you use comparable lead bullet data.
The lead loads I found were in the Lee book but were not 165 grain. The 155 grain (lead) is 6.2 and the 180 gr (lead) bullet load is 5.8. If it were me, I would extrapolate 6.0 as a pretty good guess for 165 gr. Interesting to note that 6.5 on 155 gr was marked a compressed load, i.e. the powder choice is a bit bulky for that lighter bullet weight and higher charge. I ain't loadin' no compressed loads in my .40 S&Ws.
Select the load data link in the upper left. I could quote it but don't believe I am allowed. Basically you use comparable lead bullet data.
The lead loads I found were in the Lee book but were not 165 grain. The 155 grain (lead) is 6.2 and the 180 gr (lead) bullet load is 5.8. If it were me, I would extrapolate 6.0 as a pretty good guess for 165 gr. Interesting to note that 6.5 on 155 gr was marked a compressed load, i.e. the powder choice is a bit bulky for that lighter bullet weight and higher charge. I ain't loadin' no compressed loads in my .40 S&Ws.
armyofmunn
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Real Gun thanks, Thats what I was thinkin but I wanted to bounce it off of someone else before I tried it. It is ashame rainier has got some good bullets but no real good load data. Maybe thats how they keep there price down just stay with the lead load or 10% off of jacketed but 165 gr is just now taking hold as a popular gr load in 40 S&W everything you need for 155 and 180 is in all the books but 165 lead have not seen it. Thanks again
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