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.41 Mag Association

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by 336A, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. philoe

    philoe Member

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    Mountain Gun here. Absolutely love the round. Was exactly what I was looking for an across the board woods gun. Next up will be a reloading setup and a SA Ruger with a longer barrel than my Smith.
     
  2. shooting4life

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    I have a couple, first is a freedom arms 97 and the second is a s&w 657 that sits in my nightstand.
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  3. 336A

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    That is a very nice FA 97 shooting4life, now I have to wipe the drool off my key board.
     
  4. JohnD13

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    Well now I can add a Freedom Arms 97 to my wish list!
     
  5. 1911Tuner

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    +1 JohnD. That's a good-lookin' single action.

    Looks like the .41 maggers are crawlin' outta the woodwork.
     
  6. galena

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    Sign me up guys. I have been a fan of the .41 Mag for some time. I bought my first in 1987 when I retruned from overseas. It is a M-57, round butt, 5' barrel. Yeah, someone "customized" it, the collector purists will howl but I like the darn thing. My second was a "Gun List" purchase from a pawn in Oklahoma. The ad read "S&W M-58 Excellent shape, $450.00" I fired off my money and a dealer friend's FFL, and imagine my suprise when I opened the box and there was a nickle plated, fully engraved M-58. I lettered it with S&W and it was an old San Antonio PD gun. Don't know who/when it was engraved and plated but they did a good job. Added some Rocky Mtn Elk horn grips from Eagle grips and made it my BBQ gun. The third is another M-58 with an S serial number. I haven't had it lettered yet. It is pretty much my carry piece when I am out of sight of the road. Forth is a Ruger Blackhawk, 4 5/8 barrel.

    I shoot mostly reloads. Have a 210grn, jacketed hollow point right out of the Winchester Western brochure based on W-W 296, it will do the job. My everyday load is a hard lead, 210grn SWC, based on Blue Dot, it runs somewhere between 900-1000 fps. Little easier on my old arthritic hands.

    Love my .41s. Keep shootin'
     
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  7. 336A

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    Welcome galena you need to post pics of that engraved M58 before your put on double secret squirrel lock down;) This is great I hope we can keep this thread going. I asked this question in the hunting forum but I want to ask here as well. I'll be hunting hogs for the first time this year. Does anyone here know how effective a 215gr SWC over 8.5gr of Unique will be on on feral swine?
     
  8. galena

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    .41 MAG Association - My Membership Qualifications

    Thanks for the kind words 336A. I'm not much at posting pics but here goes. Glad you started this thread. Keep shootin'
     

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  9. JohnD13

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    Nicely engraved S&W you have there galena. So now I know that a some point San Antonio PD carried .41's, it's been forty years since I've been in San Antonio, and I think I heard that New Mexico State Troopers carried them at one time. Can anyone think of any other PD's that carried a .41?

    Hey 336A, your probably right about causing some stinging in the hand with those 250 grain loads! I'm just always experimenting. I'm sort of like the idea of a 1000fps load that would be accurate and not make me want to put the gun down after 50 rounds!
     
  10. shaggy430

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    I'll join. I've got a Ruger Bisley Blackhawk in .41 magnum. Awesome pistol.
     
  11. 22-rimfire

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    I have a few 41 mag revolvers and would join. It is my favorite big bore caliber.
     
  12. SeekHer

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    Count me in as well.

    It is the only calibre of handgun that I possess excluding rimfires.

    First was S&W, then a Dan Wesson Pistol Pac, then Ruger, Taurus, Thompson Center Contender, then Freedom Arms and a Marlin 1894G carbine...I'm really sorry that I passed on a Magnum Research Desert Eagle.
     
  13. Red October

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    Count me in too.
    I've owned 4 of them over the years and still regret selling the first one, a SW 657. None since have been as "right" as that one was.
    Just got one now, a DW 41VH.
     
  14. 336A

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    That is a very nice M58 galena. BTW has anyone worked up to the max load with 2400 that is published in the most recent Hornady manual? They show 20gr with their 210gr XTP bullet. That is a full grain more than any other manufactures data that I've seen.

    Also where can I find data for 2400 and commercial cast 215gr SWC bullets. Would it be safe to use the data that Lyman lists for their old 220gr bullet?
     
  15. 336A

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    JohnD, your right it is fun to experiment. However just thinking of launching a 250gr-265gr bulletnorth of 1250fps makes my hand smart just thinking about it.
     
  16. Bush Pilot

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    I have a pretty nice 58 marked "SFPD". I'll bet that couldn't happen in California these days.
     
  17. Bush Pilot

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    I've had one on my wish list for a looooong time, someday.
     
  18. 41 Mag

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    Well I guess I am late to the party as usual. :)

    I got my first around 84 or so, a Ruger 3 screw flat top. It was a decent find at a pawn shop. It was used but hadn't had enough use to even get a ring around the cylinder. I kept it for several years then traded it off on a Redhawk which was what I had wanted from the get go.

    Since then I have shot bullets of every brand, shape size and weight, but overall settled on the Remington 200gr SJHP. Like was mentioned the 170gr was an awesome bullet.

    Speaking of the Remington 170gr SJHP, for all the good it will do, I shot an email to Midway, asking them to try and get Remington to do another special run of them. I contacted Remington not too long ago and they said they could easily do it if I had the money. A run would be about two semi's full. So if you have a chance fire a note off to Larry Potterfield at Midway, maybe they will get Remington to do a run of them. Hey, it never hurts to ask, worst that could happen is nothing.

    As for other loads, the 200gr has been my staple load for going on 20yrs. Loaded over 20.5grs of 296 it is a very pleasant hunting or practice load and very accurate from my Redhawk, my bud's S7W and several others that we have tried it in. In showing my bud the differences that a crimp makes I shot these two groups at 40yds offhand. The wind was gusting around the end of the barn and somewhat skewed my group a little on the right.
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    Overall I would not hesitate to haul mine out with this load hunting just about any ND game around. It simply shoots and with the mid range velocity running around 1300fps form my 7.5" barrel, the bullet doesn't blow up even when hitting the heavy shoulder on a big hog. They expand like you would want them to and drive on through.

    You folks sure have some nice hardware posted up here. Almost makes me want to start shopping for another one. But I'm holding out for a 7.5" Redhawk in 45 Colt to complete my collection first.
     
  19. 336A

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    If Remington does bring that loading back I hope that they charge a reasonable price. I can't sse how they justify charging what they do for their 210gr loading, they sure are proud of it though askig $65 or more.
     
  20. 1911Tuner

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    That's the one drawback to being addicted to the .41 Magnum. The cost of commercially loaded ammunition pretty well makes handloading a necessity if you intend to actually shoot it.
     
  21. 336A

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    Actually much to my surprise not all .41 mag ammo is overly costly. It is expensive but so is .44 mag ammo. The last box of factory ammo I bought was some Speer 210gr DCHP for $27 something. The .44 mag ammo of the same brand actually cost more than my .41 mag ammo.
     
  22. JohnD13

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    I'm going to have to find one of my old Speer manuals(I think it was Speer anyway), because I seem to remember a load that was 20 grains of 2400 with the Speer 220 SWCHP. The old half jacket bullet that I haven't seen in a long time. I like 2400, I can use it in several of the cartridges I shoot, and the less stuff I have in the way, the better! So, if I can find this load, it should work for your 215 grain bullet 336A.
     
  23. 336A

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    That is what I was thinking too John, but I do want to err on the side of safety. I'm surprised to see the wide variation between the Lyman cast bullet manual and the newer Pistol & Revolver handbook for the same loads. For example in the cast bullet manual they show a max load of Unique with their 215gr SWCGC bullet (410610) as being 10.4gr. In the new Pistol & Revolver book the max load has dropped to 8.7gr of Unique:scrutiny:

    One thing that I did notice though is what the cartridges are being fired from between the two manuals. In the cast bullet manual they use a special vented Universal receiver barrel. In the new Pistol & revolver Handbook it is just a plain unvented Universal receiver of the same length. So I'm thinking that is th reason for the difference.
     
  24. 1911Tuner

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    For the record...

    The old Speer half jacketed SWC bullets were 220 grains for the soft point and 200 for the hollowpoint.

    I was sad to see Speer drop them, along with the .357s...160 and 146, and the .44s...240 and 225. They were excellent bullets. Also for what it's worth should anyone stumble across any...do not reduce the loads below minimum. Lightly loaded, the jackets would stick in the bore and send the core downrange. Yeah. Ask me how I know about that.
     
  25. dap22

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    In. Love my Ruger .41 and Marlin 1894 FG. Absolutely my favorite caliber to shoot and reload bar none.
     

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