...............44 .451's

[TWC]

Looking for something else and found some 44 451's. All the cap and ball revolvers I window browse recommend .454"s. Looking at old Cabelas B.P. guide it recommends .451's for some weapons. Any one use them for anything? What are they the preferred round for?

 

[skeeterfogger]

If they fit snug they'll shoot. IMO the preferred is to have .020 ring shave except for champhered cylinders. I like better than .020 simply because it provides more bearing area.
I bench load .457 in my Dragoon for the bearing area with heavier load pressure.
.457 in Walker for same plus I reamed the cylinder to .451 which drastically improved accuracy. The barrel bore is a tad over.
1858 and Colt get .454. lower load pressure so skipping possibility is less on less bearing area.
36 call get .380.

 

[Mike 56]

451s will work just make sure they shave a full circle when loading. When I run out of pure lead I cast with a .451 mold the balls fall at .452 and aren't too hard to load.

 

[Russell13]

Haven’t seen any. I can’t find .457, been looking everywhere and all I can find is .454

 

[skeeterfogger]

Haven’t seen any. I can’t find .457, been looking everywhere and all I can find is .454

Don't know. I cast everything I use.

 

[Mike 56]

Track of the Wolf has .457 balls swaged and hand cast. https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/127/2

 

[Gordon]

I use .451 in my older ASM 1860s BUT I use a lubed Ox felt Wonder wad under it and 32 grains of FFF powder. They barely shave a ring. I also use that ball in a little Pedersoli single shot screw on barrel, it is the preferred diameter. The Walker shaves the ball at .454 , barely but shoot s well with that, once again I use a lubed wonder wad and 42 grains of FFF in the Walker. My .45 rifle shoots patched .433 balls ! Go figure

 

[arcticap]

Natchez has revolver balls in stock.

.Hornady .457 : --->>> https://www.natchezss.com/hornady-lead-round-ball-45-cal-457-100-ct.html

Hornady .454: --->>> https://www.natchezss.com/hornady-lead-round-ball-44-cal-454-100-ct.html

Traditions .451: --->>> https://www.natchezss.com/tradition...-ball-bulk-pack-44-cal-451-140-gr-100-ct.html

 

[arcticap]

LG Outdoors also has .457's and other balls with flat rate shipping. --->>> https://www.lg-outdoors.com/Search/Keyword?keywords=round balls

 

[Darto]

As for 36 caliber read this Dixie review.... complaints the .380 is too large, they had to drive the balls out with a punch. It worked great with .375. I find this to be true on my .36 Colt 2nd generation 1862 police (had to use .375, .380 too large).
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index..._name/RH0611+Uberti+Leech+and+Rigdon+Revolver
I use .454 in my defarbed Walker.

track of the wolf has dozens of sizes round ball, at least 50 sizes. Their .319 is great for Remington 31 caliber pocket.

 

[arcticap]

I use .451 in my older ASM 1860s BUT I use a lubed Ox felt Wonder wad under it and 32 grains of FFF powder. They barely shave a ring. I also use that ball in a little

Same here with a more recent Pietta Remington.
Some balls shave more of a ring than others but they're tight enough.

 

[Russell13]

So I use .454 with my Remington.44, they don’t shave a lot of lead off but seem to work just fine. On the walker I was told you want the .457 for the higher pressures of the extra powder behind it. Not sure if this is true or not. Maybe I will try both ball sizes in both guns and let you guys know if there is any difference

 

[sspierce8]

457 for the Walker. Works great. Also for the ROA. Perfect fit for both.

 

[Navy Six 2]

Uberti 44 cylinder mouths run around .449 or there abouts and the .451 would be marginal. Pietta 44 cylinder mouths average around .446 and would be a better fit for the .451 ball.