44 magnum vs 10mm heavy bone hard cast test

[BreechFace]

My woods carry ammo currently is 10mm, 180gr Federal Trophy Bonded Jacketed Soft Point. But they are getting hard to find and I plan on rolling my own hardcast and will have to wring it out with that ammo then.

 

[Arctic Linebaugh]

What do you do while your rifle is leaning against a tree and your field dressing your elk?

I don’t really mess with small game. But I do wear a handgun when I’m skinning a moose.



But a handgun is just wasted weight when stalking

 

[BreechFace]

I don’t really mess with small game. But I do wear a handgun when I’m skinning a moose.



But a handgun is just wasted weight when stalking

So where does one get the handgun when the deed is done and one is field dressing their big game animal?

You mean you shoot game then leave it to return your rifle to your truck and switch to your handgun and then head back and field dress?

I know that I’m not heading back without some of the meat and then unload the rifle and any extra weight and return with just the meat shelf pack and my sidearm.

 

[Arctic Linebaugh]

So where does one get the handgun when the deed is done and one is field dressing their big game animal?

You mean you shoot game then leave it to return your rifle to your truck and switch to your handgun and then head back and field dress?

I know that I’m not heading back without some of the meat and then unload the rifle and any extra weight and return with just the meat shelf pack and my sidearm.

So you’re packing everything you need for an entire hunt at all times on the hunt? That seems like carrying a ton of extra weight, or you’re not out very far.


Pack frame, game bags, sleeping bag, tent, stove etc all stay in camp. Pistol is too.


I carry my small day pack with light weight binos, a reload for my rifle, a fixed blade knife, some snacks and a water bottle, my IFAK, my spot and my rifle. Rain gear if I’m gonna be more than a mile from camp.



If you’re not going very far out, weight shouldn’t be a huge concern.

 

[BreechFace]

I carry a daypack, with a shelf system to carry some meat, water bladder, game bags, field dress knives, lunch, small alcohol stove for coffee/tea, first aid, ifak, binos, rifle, and sidearm.

I put an animal down I don’t head back to camp. It’s field dress and get a portion or all of the meat (depending on size of the animal) back to camp with me.

Just different mentalities I guess. It’s not that much weight that I carry.

 

[Arctic Linebaugh]

I mean yeah you can do that. But the guy I was quoting was humping up and down mountains at 9K feet and looking to cut weight.


A side arm when carrying a rifle is a perfect example of dead weight. It’s only useful when you don’t have a rifle.

 

[Phaedrus/69]

I'm not a bear expert by any means but I know they're 25% faster than Usain Bolt (and Bolt is at least twice as fast my broken down a$$). If your rifle isn't within a step of you when you need it, then you're unarmed. In Montana the guys will often have one guy standing there with a rifle in hand while another guy or two dresses and quarters the elk or bison. Again, I'm not really much of a hunter anymore although I was in my youth. Carrying two guns is more weight, but if I'm being honest I sometimes carry two guns in town.

 

[Lennyjoe]

I mean yeah you can do that. But the guy I was quoting was humping up and down mountains at 9K feet and looking to cut weight.


A side arm when carrying a rifle is a perfect example of dead weight. It’s only useful when you don’t have a rifle.

I disagree. While elk hunting, it’s not uncommon to be 3-5 miles away from our truck/camp and having a backpack with some minor survival gear, to include sidearm, in areas where bear, mountain lions, wolves are not uncommon makes perfect sense to me.

One evening we downed a large cow elk just before sunset. I humped out some of the meat 1.5 miles from the truck and headed back via gps and flashlight while my partner kept carving up in darkness. Didn’t take long for a pack of coyotes to start calling and looking for the kill. Needless to say, he was on high alert when I got back to help carry the remaining meat out. Was definitely happy he had more than 5 rounds in his rifle.

Everyone has differing opinions on their personal protection requirements in the field. One is no better or worse than the one I choose. Carry on and be safe out there.

 

[WisBorn]

Everyone has differing opinions on their personal protection requirements in the field. One is no better or worse than the one I choose. Carry on and be safe out there

This is so true!

 

[Arctic Linebaugh]

I disagree. While elk hunting, it’s not uncommon to be 3-5 miles away from our truck/camp and having a backpack with some minor survival gear, to include sidearm, in areas where bear, mountain lions, wolves are not uncommon makes perfect sense to me.

One evening we downed a large cow elk just before sunset. I humped out some of the meat 1.5 miles from the truck and headed back via gps and flashlight while my partner kept carving up in darkness. Didn’t take long for a pack of coyotes to start calling and looking for the kill. Needless to say, he was on high alert when I got back to help carry the remaining meat out. Was definitely happy he had more than 5 rounds in his rifle.

Everyone has differing opinions on their personal protection requirements in the field. One is no better or worse than the one I choose. Carry on and be safe out there.

I mean you kinda just proved what I was saying.

 

[Lennyjoe]

You may be right…..

 

[WisBorn]

From an old fart - COOL!

I ran some of those Underwood 305gr .44 Mags over my Labradar using 3 different barrel lengths - also 305 gr Buffalo Bore:

Buffalo Bore, 305 LBT LFN HC rated 1,325 fps
Underwood, 305 LFNGC Plated (HiTech?) rated 1,325 fps

LabRadar muzzle velocity at 33 deg F
S&W M69 2.75" ===> BB 1,195 fps ===> Under 1,147fps
S&W M69 4.25" ===> BB 1,276 fps ===> Under 1,248 fps
Ruger SRH 7.5" ===> BB 1,395 fps ===> Under 1,315 fps

Paul

@paul105 thank you for posting these results. We all know that shorter barrels will loose velocity. But unless you can compare the same load in different barrel lengths it's really only an educated guess.
Thanks again.