45 ACP in a 2" gun
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Stainz
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Loudly - and with much flash! Additionally, a lite weight, like a friend's short-lived 325PD, actually has a good thump. He sold the 325PD in less than a month because of it's recoil last spring - and recently bought a 625-10 - another 2" .45 ACP. I shot the 325PD at 12-15yd at 4"-6" steel plates it's hi-viz front and V-notch rear made sighting ambiguous, and my marksmanship was much worse than my 4" 625... and I noticed the 'thump' with 230gr ball ammo. I agree re the CDNN goodies... that 2" non-ported looks interesting - and I am generally not fond of Tauri. The 5-shot clips will be hard to find. Someone give us a use report, please - particularly interested in it's use with .45 Auto Rims.
Stainz
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The little Taurus snubbies must be used with .45 ACP cartridges and the company's full-moon clips. The chambers are too close together to accept the .45 Autorim's rims.
In a steel gun (as opposided to a total Ti.) the recoil is much more managable if you go to loads with lighter bullet weights in the 180 grain range. Expect muzzle flash though.
Handloaders of course can create ammunition that's matched to the gun, and its user.
In a steel gun (as opposided to a total Ti.) the recoil is much more managable if you go to loads with lighter bullet weights in the 180 grain range. Expect muzzle flash though.
Handloaders of course can create ammunition that's matched to the gun, and its user.
Hopefully I wasn't confusing with what I was asking. I am curious about the balistics out of a 2" barrel.
I know most people keep 1911s around 4" but thats more of a reliability issue.
Can a big fat round get enough speed out of the 2" barrel to penetrate reliably?
I know most people keep 1911s around 4" but thats more of a reliability issue.
Can a big fat round get enough speed out of the 2" barrel to penetrate reliably?
Cortland
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Well, my S&W CS45 has a 2" barrel, discounting the chamber of course. I've always heard lighter bullets are more suitable for really short barrels (due to the velocity concern). I carry 165 gr. Hydrashocks in mine. I've never bothered to chronograph them. The recoil is very manageable with the 165 gr. bullets -- not that it's all that terrible with 230 gr. ball.
Richard
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My M325 works for me. Regards, Richard 
wheelgunnin
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someone mentioned accuracy? why do you think the 625-10 has a short bbl?its a pocket pistol,a modern day fitz special;its not for targets its for smokin fools who dont deserve to breathe the same air as my kids.you want to compare apples to apples man.a 2incher cant be comp.to a 4inch gun.also if recoil is an issue between life and death,go get a knife or bat you shouldnt be carrying a pistol.Im sorry for the attitude but im so sick of hearing about non issues like recoil and accuracy in a gun you will most likly be shoving into the chest or guts of some scumbag.
SnWnMe
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I am sure that no sane person will want to stand in front of a .45 slug, velocity challenged or not.
Johnny Guest
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I think the idea is fascinating.
I look forward to seeing one. Always liked the idea of the old fashioned English-bulldog style pocket revolver, with a large bore and short barrel. A lightweight version is particularly enticing. I personally don't care if the 230 ball is only going 700 fps. I might consider a 200 gr SWC going just a bit faster. As to "targetability," I'd think that a Taurus would be able to keep five rounds on the vital area of a standard silhouette at 15 to 20 feet, and this is about all that's necessary. Such a revolver, in my mind, could be more easily managed than a lightweight .357 snub.
When you come right down to it, an Airweight J frame is no pleasure to shoot with +P .38s, nor, really, is a Kel Tec .380. Kinda like opening an unsleeved parachute at 200 MPH - - Sure, it hurts, but if you need to use it, you'll be giving thanks you HAD it.
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I look forward to seeing one. Always liked the idea of the old fashioned English-bulldog style pocket revolver, with a large bore and short barrel. A lightweight version is particularly enticing. I personally don't care if the 230 ball is only going 700 fps. I might consider a 200 gr SWC going just a bit faster. As to "targetability," I'd think that a Taurus would be able to keep five rounds on the vital area of a standard silhouette at 15 to 20 feet, and this is about all that's necessary. Such a revolver, in my mind, could be more easily managed than a lightweight .357 snub.
When you come right down to it, an Airweight J frame is no pleasure to shoot with +P .38s, nor, really, is a Kel Tec .380. Kinda like opening an unsleeved parachute at 200 MPH - - Sure, it hurts, but if you need to use it, you'll be giving thanks you HAD it.
Best,
Johnny
Many of those old Bulldog revolvers were chambered for the English .450 revolver cartridge. 225 to 230 grain bullet with a muzzle velocity of between 550 to 650 FPS - depending on barrel length. Then we have the .41 RF short that was used in so many Derringers. 130 grain bullet @ 425 FPS out of a 3" barrel.
One wonders how those old-time gamblers (and others) were ever able to stop anybody ...
One wonders how those old-time gamblers (and others) were ever able to stop anybody ...
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