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.45 ACP "Viper" Shotshells

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by BlindJustice, Sep 18, 2007.

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  1. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Member

    Jul 26, 2007
    Pullman, WA
    I've been thinking of getting a few
    .45 ACP Shotshells

    SHopping Comparisonn of what I've found

    CCI Shotshells
    Plastic Capsule on end of brass case
    claimed to have a better pattern than
    crimped rounds
    117 gr. of #9 Lead shot approx. 210 pellets
    $10.95 per 10 rds. or almost $ 1.10 each

    Reed's Ammunition & Research
    offers crimped - it is crimped with five
    notches and the remaining brass ? crimp is
    a curved ogive and may function in a
    Semi-AUto, depends on individual guns.
    150 gr #7 1/2 Shot approx. 110 count of
    of lightly nickel plated pellets claimed to
    be less damaging to rifling.
    25 rounds - $ 12.95 or $ 0.52 each
    R.A.R. also offers
    150 gr. #12 chilled shot 25 rounds at the same price.

    I have both of R.A.R. offerings in stock
    I'll get some of the CCI stuff and go shoot
    some pie plates at 3 feet 6 feet & keep going
    at 3 foot intervals and check/report the

    ONe man in Oregon should have considered shot shells
    but instead musta said something like "Hey Bubba,
    hold my beer..."



    Any one with experience shooting these shot shells in
    a revolver or Semi-Auto?
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Sep 17, 2007
    Eastern KS
    The CCI capsule shot-shells will pattern better.

    During WWII the military loaded both star-crimped and roll-crimped .45 ACP shot-shells for survival packs.
    I have made then from turned down .308 Win. cases, & loaded them with both an over-shot card wad & roll crimp, as well as a star crimp without a card wad.
    They don't pattern neatly as well as the CCI shot-capsules.

    As for functioning, either one may or may not function a 1911.
    It all depends on the individual gun.

    Neither lead or nickle plated shot is going to do the slightest damage to the rifling, although they will both lead the bore badly.

    The CCI capsules protect to bore from leading to a greater extent.

    For snake killing, #12 shot seems to me to work much better then any larger shot size. They just go limp when hit with #12, while they often take two or three hits with #9 to kill them really dead.

    Be interesting to see your test results.

  3. floridaboy

    floridaboy Member

    Feb 14, 2007
    Do NOT use them in revolvers. I tried them in my Blackhawk with .45acp cylinder and they lock up the cylinder every time. I have heard reports from others regards this problem too. I'd love to know why this happens though.
  4. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Member

    Jul 26, 2007
    Pullman, WA
    CYlinder lockup - probably buildup between the
    cylinder and forcing cone

    My fatherr was a Radioman/Navigator in the Army
    AIr COrps in WWII. He is a member of the Hump
    Pilots & Aircrew Association. They flew from
    eastern India north over the eastern Himilayas
    flying in vital war supplies into China. He mentionned
    they issued shotshells for their 1911s as part of the
    survavl kit. Not many who crashed or parachuted into
    the jungles made it back. The routes was nicknamed
    the Trail of ALuminum.

    Guess I am off topic. But SHot SHells would be helpful
    trying to survive in that situation.
  5. greenjeans

    greenjeans Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    I have used the 9mm CCI's in my Ruger P95 and theywork fine. They will also cycle the Ruger.
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