45 is getting expensive
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Rod B
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I would suggest reloading & if you wish to save even more try casting your own bullets.
If I don't count my time (I'm retired) 100 .45ACP reloads cost me less than $6.00.
Rod.
If I don't count my time (I'm retired) 100 .45ACP reloads cost me less than $6.00.
Rod.
ChuckB
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Expensive? My nearest Gander Mountain has Blazer Brass for $19.95/50!
No way I'm going to buy my ammo there any more.
Chuck
No way I'm going to buy my ammo there any more.Chuck
carnaby
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I just bought my Lee .45 die set. I've only loaded pistol so far, but the prices are getting out of hand. Should have the set early this week, and I can start using all that brass I've been saving
lil ski
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You save a ton of money reloading (my bullseye load)
Once fires brass $6.00 a 100 = .06 each
Powder $18.95 a pound (bullseye) 3.5 gr load = .01 each
Primers $20.00 a thousand = .02 each
Lead (top shelf match grade swc) $53 a thousand = .05 each
Total cost per round is .14 cents X 50 = $7.00 a box with the brass and reusing the brass your at $4.00 a box I pay that much for good 22 shells. The moral is the more you reload the more you can shoot
lol lilski, that was his whole point with "won't save a dime though", because you end up spending the same amount, just shooting more with it.
CHUCK- that has GOT to be a mistake. $20 per box of cci blazer? That is over twice walmart's price. insane.
CHUCK- that has GOT to be a mistake. $20 per box of cci blazer? That is over twice walmart's price. insane.
lil ski
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You are correct but it makes me feel better and I tell the wife I'm saving money.
vito
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I hadn't fired 45 acp in quite awhile, so after shooting 3 boxes of 50 yesterday I stopped to buy some ammo on the way home. I was stunned at the prices; the last ammo I bought was about $10/50. I was able to get Blazer at $13/50 at MC Sports. I guess I'll shoot a lot more 22 LR from now on.
Everythings going up in price. I am not going to buy a smaller caliber pistol to ease the burden of shooting. Things you love cost money. In comparison ammo is not nearly as expensive as gasoline . I am not giving my truck up either. I reload my own ammo and I would refine my own gas if I could. Just by in bulk. Just purchased 500 rds of 185 JHP Rainiers from Midway. 45 bucks is not to bad and if you are careful and police your brass you will save lot's o' dough.ALL ammo prices are going up
It's not just .45ACP that is increasing in price. At the present rates of escalation, it won't be long before 9mm costs as much as .45ACP did two or three years ago. (Just try to find reasonably-priced 7.6x55 for your K31s!)
As sb350hp suggests, buy in bulk. Some of the smaller ammo manufacturers have pretty good prices. Collins Cartridge Co. ships theirs in zip-lock bags. Another possibility is Georgia Arms "Canned Heat". I haven't checked lately, but I think they both offer .45ACP.
It's not just .45ACP that is increasing in price. At the present rates of escalation, it won't be long before 9mm costs as much as .45ACP did two or three years ago. (Just try to find reasonably-priced 7.6x55 for your K31s!)
As sb350hp suggests, buy in bulk. Some of the smaller ammo manufacturers have pretty good prices. Collins Cartridge Co. ships theirs in zip-lock bags. Another possibility is Georgia Arms "Canned Heat". I haven't checked lately, but I think they both offer .45ACP.
fattsgalore
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What state are you in? Hopefully Florida.
I'll take it if you want. Seriously.
I'll take it if you want. Seriously.
A good reloading setup and 22LR conversion kits are both good insulation against higher ammo prices. One advantage to reloading 45 auto is lead bullets are still relatively cheap and full power 45 loads shouldn't cause leading problems with decent cast bullets.
Blazer brass 45 auto is going for $11/box at the local wally world.
Blazer brass 45 auto is going for $11/box at the local wally world.
.45 Blazer Brass is $11 at the local Walmart here. That's the best deal I can find. WWB used to be about the same price if bought by the 100 round value pack. Now that value pack is about $28 instead of $23 and the CCI is better imho. The Blazer Brass is getting hard to come across lately. Even a case price of Wolf or CCI steel online...even reloaded ammo with shipping cost isn't as good of a deal. I think the next time I buy .45 acp I'll be even more screwed. Reloading seems to be the only way to knock down the cost per round. Even that is becomming less and less of a good deal as the years go by. Ho Hum.
Surplussoldier
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MAN, it costs $20 + tax [CDN] for 50 rounds of Federal 230 grain FMJ in the local store here. I WISH I could get 50 rounds for $10 U.S.! Welcome to Canadian ammo prices...
bigcim
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still $21 for wwb 100ct 45acp at the walmart by my house
I've been considering reloading for a while and just made up a spreadsheet with some numbers that I found on Widener's reloading site. I must be missing something or not calculating correctly, because my prices are way above what i pay at wally world, particularly for .40S&W and just barely for .38SPL.
I've attached the excel spreadsheet below - it's got formulas set up so you can modify any of the numbers in columns B through K and L1 through O1 to see how costs change per value/quantity entered. Could someone who reloads take a look and tell me what i'm missing? I am not seeing a compelling reason from these numbers to invest in reloading equipment Perhaps i'm just not looking for components in the right place?
If you guys can tell me how to adjust the cost calculation, i can implement it into the spreadsheet and upload it again Maybe others can use it to keep track of their costs...
Here's the excel sheet:
http://headless.shackspace.com/Reloading.xls
Edit: Nevermind - i forgot you re-use the brass. Duh
I've attached the excel spreadsheet below - it's got formulas set up so you can modify any of the numbers in columns B through K and L1 through O1 to see how costs change per value/quantity entered. Could someone who reloads take a look and tell me what i'm missing? I am not seeing a compelling reason from these numbers to invest in reloading equipment
Perhaps i'm just not looking for components in the right place?If you guys can tell me how to adjust the cost calculation, i can implement it into the spreadsheet and upload it again
Maybe others can use it to keep track of their costs...Here's the excel sheet:
http://headless.shackspace.com/Reloading.xls
Edit: Nevermind - i forgot you re-use the brass. Duh
varoadking
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Where would that be?
Bi-marts were having a big sale on ammo last week, 11.97 for green box UMC. 9mm at 7 bucks.
I've been happy with the UMC for practice stuff...
She told me that the big megapacks of 250 yellow UMC will be on sale in a couple weeks.
Walmart had blazer brass for 11 and 100 WWB for 23 when I was out a few days ago. So I'm piling it on.
I've been happy with the UMC for practice stuff...
She told me that the big megapacks of 250 yellow UMC will be on sale in a couple weeks.
Walmart had blazer brass for 11 and 100 WWB for 23 when I was out a few days ago. So I'm piling it on.
Get a Jarvis bbl as already suggested and shoot led. The money you would put into a new gun should be put into a decent reloading set up. Of course I say drink the Blue Kool Aid, but I would get the Dillon 550B. You could be shooting your own reloads for about 80 per K or so. That is what I did, and it saves a bunch of money. Of course there are some deals on jacketed bullets out there.
http://www.precisiondelta.com/ is a good place to get stuff frt paid to your door.
Contact John Walton at www.gunstop.com for Dillon Stuff!
http://www.precisiondelta.com/ is a good place to get stuff frt paid to your door.
Contact John Walton at www.gunstop.com for Dillon Stuff!
bigcim
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walmart in duarte ,ca
Folks,
Ammo prices are going to get much worse. A couple posters here stated that ammo makers were profiteering, but thats not true at all.
China has become or is becoming industrialized. The "sleeping giant" (China) has awakened. China is now using up the worlds supply of metals and fuels. So, metal costs are sky rocketing. This is the reality. Its not the ammo companys. It is the cost of metals and cased ammo used metals in the casings and the bullets, never mind the primers.
At Buffalo Bore, we have raised our prices 15% in the last three years, but our costs of production have gone up over 30%. So, even with our higher prices, we are profiting less than we were three years ago. I'm pretty sure that ammo companies were making a lot more profit three years ago, at lower prices than they are today at higher prices and I only see it getting worse for the long haul.
Stock up now if you can.
Ammo prices are going to get much worse. A couple posters here stated that ammo makers were profiteering, but thats not true at all.
China has become or is becoming industrialized. The "sleeping giant" (China) has awakened. China is now using up the worlds supply of metals and fuels. So, metal costs are sky rocketing. This is the reality. Its not the ammo companys. It is the cost of metals and cased ammo used metals in the casings and the bullets, never mind the primers.
At Buffalo Bore, we have raised our prices 15% in the last three years, but our costs of production have gone up over 30%. So, even with our higher prices, we are profiting less than we were three years ago. I'm pretty sure that ammo companies were making a lot more profit three years ago, at lower prices than they are today at higher prices and I only see it getting worse for the long haul.
Stock up now if you can.
ojibweindian
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What Sundles says is true. China's been securing as many raw materials as possible for some time. Between them buying up as much as possible, and the devaluation of the dollar against other currencies, prices are gonna be much higher.
Get what you can now.
Get what you can now.
Pietro Beretta
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One could say that the cost of metal, gasoline and all the such, are infact staying the same.
Couldnt one presume that the buying power of the $ is decreasing?
Every year since the Federal Reserve came into act, inflation (the hidden tax), and the removal of the gold base has made our $ practically worthless. What happend to paper money being the reciept for your gold!
I honestly don't think items cost that much more than 40 years ago, infact some items should cost less than they do. I believe since the $ loses its value every year, the purchasing power of the $ decreases, makeing prices increase.
Couldnt one presume that the buying power of the $ is decreasing?
Every year since the Federal Reserve came into act, inflation (the hidden tax), and the removal of the gold base has made our $ practically worthless. What happend to paper money being the reciept for your gold!
I honestly don't think items cost that much more than 40 years ago, infact some items should cost less than they do. I believe since the $ loses its value every year, the purchasing power of the $ decreases, makeing prices increase.
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