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lol - I guess I was making up a new one! Thanks for pointing that out - old timer's syndrome setting in I guess - fixed it 
.45ACP revolver?
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The King of 45acp's, pretty hard to argue with and Xtra nice deanodog......do you ever shoot that thing?
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Yes I shoot it often. I shoot mostly auto rim. Boy you have to keep it clean. It may be due to my lousy reloads. I never shoot factory ammo.
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Yes I shoot it often. I shoot mostly auto rim. Boy you have to keep it clean. It may be due to my lousy reloads. I never shoot factory ammo.
Pappy John
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But, Zoogster, many people find the .45 ACP to be enough cartridge for most situations, and there IS no more positive ejection or faster re-load than the moonclip.
Another plus, on the S&Ws, the cylinder typically is shortened, making for a lighter, handier N-frame than those with a full length cylinder.
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NORTEXED
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I love shooting my Colt 1917. Picked it up in about 88' at a gunshow in Ft. Worth for $275.00, before they too started to climb. My little brother had a real beater with a decent bore, he had chopped to 3" and the butt rounded, and Satin Nickeled in about 90' that was a dream to carry. Loved that gun, and even thought about doing it to mine, but just couldn't bring myself to cut the old girl up.
Course than, there's my other "Moon gun", which I love shooting also.
Course than, there's my other "Moon gun", which I love shooting also.
rcmodel
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It looks like a 625-6 without a lock if that's what you are asking.
The .45 ACP Mountain Gun with a lock didn't start until the 625-8.
As for why anyone would want a .45 ACP revolver?
It's not about maximum power.
It's about "plenty enough" controllable power, without Magnum blast & noise.
And there is no faster speed-loader made then moon-clips.
Just ask Jerry!
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6_gunner
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There are plenty of reasons to get a .45 ACP revolver. Personally, I prefer revolvers over autos and I am a fan of the .45. A .45 ACP revolver allows for much cheaper shooting than a .45 Colt caliber revolver. Plus, the moon clips make for fast reloading and very positive ejection.
My favorite gun is a S&W 1917 which has been shortened to a 3.25 inch barrel. One of the previous owners had it shortened. I wouldn't butcher a classic gun in such a way myself, but it makes it much handier than one with a full length barrel.
Plus, one of these days I'll get a 1911 and I'll be able to use the same ammo in the pistol and revolver.
My favorite gun is a S&W 1917 which has been shortened to a 3.25 inch barrel. One of the previous owners had it shortened. I wouldn't butcher a classic gun in such a way myself, but it makes it much handier than one with a full length barrel.
Plus, one of these days I'll get a 1911 and I'll be able to use the same ammo in the pistol and revolver.
A little off topic, but if you ever run across a model 610 I suggest you give it a look.
I shoot and reload 10mm and have acquired a good pile of .40S&W brass. Not wanting to invest in another Glock barrel, (and mags, it think are required), I saw this one and picked it up. I was a little concerned with all the paraphernalia I see to load and unload the moonclips, but didn't find it necessary to load the S&W clips. In addition, I picked up some composite RIMZ moonclips and they too load and unload easily.
I took it to the range last Saturday and tried it out. I was shooting 185 grain Precision moly coated LRNs at 1000fps. I was shooting this target @ 15 yards and the recoil was less than my Ruger GP100. The trigger out of the box was at least as nice as the Ruger after 1200 or so rounds and trigger job. All in all a delight to shoot.
I imagine the 625 would be comparable and would certainly entertain the idea of one (pre-lock).
I shoot and reload 10mm and have acquired a good pile of .40S&W brass. Not wanting to invest in another Glock barrel, (and mags, it think are required), I saw this one and picked it up. I was a little concerned with all the paraphernalia I see to load and unload the moonclips, but didn't find it necessary to load the S&W clips. In addition, I picked up some composite RIMZ moonclips and they too load and unload easily.
I took it to the range last Saturday and tried it out. I was shooting 185 grain Precision moly coated LRNs at 1000fps. I was shooting this target @ 15 yards and the recoil was less than my Ruger GP100. The trigger out of the box was at least as nice as the Ruger after 1200 or so rounds and trigger job. All in all a delight to shoot.
I imagine the 625 would be comparable and would certainly entertain the idea of one (pre-lock).
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Quoheleth.........the Taurus 45 revolver has more muzzle flip than my 1911's, probably comparable to my XD45 Tactical. Neither is enough to worry about. I usually load a little hotter for this revolver than the other 45's, just because it is fun to shoot that way, I guess. The recoil is a little more than a 1911, even with the same ammo. Probably because of how I grip the thing. Again, it isn't anything to be concerned with. I really like this pistol. I had a Ruger Super Blackhawk 44 mag about 20 years ago or so, but I sold it (stupid:banghead & never bought another revolver untill this one caught my eye one day. It caused me to purchase a Ruger GP100 6" SS a few month's ago. I kinda' like the revolvers now & will probably aquire a few more before long.
& never bought another revolver untill this one caught my eye one day. It caused me to purchase a Ruger GP100 6" SS a few month's ago. I kinda' like the revolvers now & will probably aquire a few more before long.RevolvingCylinder
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I'm very interested in the Webley/Enfield conversion revolver concept. How much do one of these revolvers cost and where can I find one? How much/who does the conversion?
With the price of them I see on Gunbroker and GunsAmerica, maybe I'm better off with one of those repro top-breaks. The only affordable one's I've seen are .38s.
With the price of them I see on Gunbroker and GunsAmerica, maybe I'm better off with one of those repro top-breaks. The only affordable one's I've seen are .38s.
I had a 4" 625 once. I should have never sold it and I want another. It was the most accurate gun I've ever owned. It could literally shoot a smiley face on a target at 15yds. It was surgically accurate. I also found the recoil to be anemic. No problem at all. I should have waited and bought another one, but a 4" 586 no dash was screaming to come home the other week. The 625 will have to wait.
rcmodel
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Not a good idea.
Although thousands of .455 Webleys were converted to .45 ACP by the importers back in the 50's/60's, it was never a good idea for any reason, other then to sell a boat-load of guns you couldn't get ammo for.
The problem is that the .45 ACP is quite a bit more powerful then the .455 Webley.
As a consequence, the converted guns will quickly be reduced to a loose, rattley junker from shooting full power .45 ACP in them.
If you have one and want to shoot it, use mid-range target wad-cutter ammo in it.
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Stainz
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The feature-laden 625JM is only MSRP $40 over the standard 625, now only available in 5". Also, the special 'Thunder Ranch' version of the fixed sight holster gun 22 is still being produced - as are some modern versions of the 1917 - as part of the S&W 'Classics' production - expect them to be more than the 625JM. The 1917 will be available in Ni, blued, or blued and CCH. The 625MG in .45 ACP is a beauty - if you can find them! While many different runs of the .45 Colt variant have been made (I have two...), only a few of the .45 ACP have - as of yet.
I bought my 625JM three years ago in early Feb. It is a keeper - the spring loaded front sight, a la the Classic/DX 629, is enough reason to get one. My earlier 4" 625-8 in .45 ACP, 8/02-6/04, was a friend I grudgingly parted with when I heard, in error, of another 625MG in .45 ACP run. It was nearly eight months before I replaced that first 4"-er - a LONG time. They are fun.
Now, I reload - and love the partially lugged/traditional look of my 625MGs in .45 Colt. In fact, having "COLT" emblazoned on a S&W barrel IS kinda neat. But... I can load the very same 255gr LSWC in .45 Auto Rim cartridges at a hotter level than I can standard .45 Colts! Then there is the myriad of .45 ACP ammo - the ball ammo that can be bought on a Sunday - from Wally World. And - it really is a frugal big-bore - both in cost and in recoil. As a revolver, you can load any bullet type at nearly any level, too - no mechanism to work. About the recoil - most 1911s - and clones - weigh about the same - and produce about the same muzzle velocity. The revolver's recoil is sharper - there is no mechanism moving to absorb - nor spring to integrate - the recoil energy - it aint bad, just there. It's a great revolver.
Everything you need - from Brownell's: moonclip demooner, moonclips (metal), HKS #25 Speedloader (for .45 Auto Rims), and, if you cannot make them, .45 ARs from Georgia Arms, etc. Mine ocassionally sports a HiViz front sight - changeable in seconds.
Stainz
I bought my 625JM three years ago in early Feb. It is a keeper - the spring loaded front sight, a la the Classic/DX 629, is enough reason to get one. My earlier 4" 625-8 in .45 ACP, 8/02-6/04, was a friend I grudgingly parted with when I heard, in error, of another 625MG in .45 ACP run. It was nearly eight months before I replaced that first 4"-er - a LONG time. They are fun.
Now, I reload - and love the partially lugged/traditional look of my 625MGs in .45 Colt. In fact, having "COLT" emblazoned on a S&W barrel IS kinda neat. But... I can load the very same 255gr LSWC in .45 Auto Rim cartridges at a hotter level than I can standard .45 Colts! Then there is the myriad of .45 ACP ammo - the ball ammo that can be bought on a Sunday - from Wally World. And - it really is a frugal big-bore - both in cost and in recoil. As a revolver, you can load any bullet type at nearly any level, too - no mechanism to work. About the recoil - most 1911s - and clones - weigh about the same - and produce about the same muzzle velocity. The revolver's recoil is sharper - there is no mechanism moving to absorb - nor spring to integrate - the recoil energy - it aint bad, just there. It's a great revolver.
Everything you need - from Brownell's: moonclip demooner, moonclips (metal), HKS #25 Speedloader (for .45 Auto Rims), and, if you cannot make them, .45 ARs from Georgia Arms, etc. Mine ocassionally sports a HiViz front sight - changeable in seconds.
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I use only very mild loads in my Webley, and have 4 boxes of .45 AR brass for that purpose. It shoots great, and definately brings back a case of nostalgia.
ps: I bought mine from an older gentleman years ago for $ 75, because it had no grips. I made these out of a walnut drawer front from a cabinet shop nearby, with a 1" belt sander and a lot of judicious trimming. (This was before they were selling repros of the originals.)
ps: I bought mine from an older gentleman years ago for $ 75, because it had no grips. I made these out of a walnut drawer front from a cabinet shop nearby, with a 1" belt sander and a lot of judicious trimming. (This was before they were selling repros of the originals.)
bluetopper
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I procrastinated too long on a S&W 625 I found online for $475 trying to make up my mind........when I did decide to jump on it last week it was gone. And I could have put it in layaway.:banghead:
mnw42
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Here is my TRR...
I bought it used back in July with the grip adapter.
I bought it used back in July with the grip adapter.
Gator
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rcmodel is right, the converted Webleys are not the best option, and unconverted ones are much too valuable to ruin.
KurtC, that's a beaut! I want one!
KurtC, that's a beaut! I want one!
bluetopper
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Has Ruger ever made a double action 45acp wheelgun?
Gator
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No, but a 3" or 4" double action Redhawk would be awesome.
I once had a .45 Colt 5" Redhawk modified to also use .45 acp in full moon clips. It was pretty sweet, but the size of the gun was overkill when you consider some of the little 25's that shoot the same cartridge. It might have made more sense to try .45 WinMag in it.
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I have a recent production of a Ruger Bisley in .45 Colt that came with a .45 ACP Cylinder. I believe that Accusport was the distributor. Very accurate and the +P ACP loads shoot to the same point of impact of my .45 Colt hunting loads (the stout ones).
If you like single action shooting, it is a nice option to be able to shoot some 'less expensive' (very relative term, these days) ammo out of the gun.
If you like single action shooting, it is a nice option to be able to shoot some 'less expensive' (very relative term, these days) ammo out of the gun.
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Master Blaster
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I have a Ruger blackhawk convertable, I mostly shoot .45 acp in it, rarely shoot .45 Colt. I load lots of .45 acp for my 1911s, I have a 625, a S&W 22 just like MNW's gun, and a taurus 455 tracker (.45 acp 5 shots in a k frame size gun).
45 acp is a great round in a revolver, you can shoot heavy and slow, or light and fast, and everything in between if you load your own. Moon clips and a short OAL make .45 acp fast to reload in a revolver, faster than a long rimmed cartridge.
45 acp is a great round in a revolver, you can shoot heavy and slow, or light and fast, and everything in between if you load your own. Moon clips and a short OAL make .45 acp fast to reload in a revolver, faster than a long rimmed cartridge.
bluetopper
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I've wondered why you can't shoot 45acp in a 454 Casull? You can 45LC.
Could you if you use moon clips?
If you could that would be a great all around revolver.
Could you if you use moon clips?
If you could that would be a great all around revolver.
Sistema1927
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Nope, you would need a different cylinder due to differences in headspacing.
You can modify a .454 Double Action revolver to also use .45 acp in full moon clips, the same way as you would a .45 Colt. However, the throat on a .454 cylinder would be even further from the ACP bullet, and the increased freebore would hinder accuracy.
I've fired .40 S&W thru a 10mm Magnum cylinder, and the group was more like a pattern.
I've fired .40 S&W thru a 10mm Magnum cylinder, and the group was more like a pattern.
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