45ACP200gr H&G #68 COAL?

[kount_zer0]

Standard 45 ACP fare:

I'm loading 200gr. LSWCs (H&G 68 style) with 6.3 gr Unique in WW brass with CCI primers, shooting a Springfeild GI model 1911.

My lymans 47th says: 1.235" COAL

I'm having issues with getting a reliable feed. I've tried different magazines, and they all feed hardball fine, so I think it may be OAL with this bullet. I've checked them and they're seated to this COAL.

The action sticks when the SWC nose hits the top of the chamber, some times the action will go into battery if I soundly tap the magazine, as in tap-rack-roll. I'd say one round per 5 will stick.

Any tips? where do your 1911s like your SWC seated?

 

[ravnew]

I use an OAL of 1.250 for my 200g LSWC. They feed fine in both my kimber 45's.

 

[Redhat]

Same here, Lasercast 200 gr SWC at 1.250. Got that advice because I was having the same problems initially. What manual are you using and what bullett?

 

[1911user]

I seat the 200gr SWC so that the full diameter section of the bullet is barely (about 1/32") beyond the case mouth.

Another method that some swear by is to set the seating die depth with a factory 230gr FMJ round and lock it in place. Use that setting for any style/weight of bullet when loading 45acp. Don't worry about the exact COL, reliable feeding is what is important so long as they fit in the mag.

 

[kount_zer0]

Redhat: "Same here, Lasercast 200 gr SWC at 1.250. Got that advice because I was having the same problems initially. What manual are you using and what bullett?"
Today 06:03 PM

Lyman's 47th edtion is the source for that OAL.

The bullet is in the Hensley and Gib #68 style 200gr. SWC from Meister.

 

[45ACPUSER]

I have been loading @ 1.225 for many years with no issues.....

I have to load at 1.225 for my Jarvis bbl in the HK USP, any longer and I get problems.....

 

[wally]

1.250" OAL is fine for single stack 1911s, For double stack Paras and other .45ACP guns I've had to shorten them a bit, 1911user's method is about what I've come up with and has them working in all my guns.

--wally.

 

[kount_zer0]

Thanks gents! I'll try a few more lengths!

I actually did search for this, but I guess I worded it wrong, since I just searched again and found this question quite a few times.


Thanks again!

 

[trickyasafox]

1.265 OAL runs for me

 

[Jim Watson]

1. 1911 User is correct. Seat some of the shoulder out of the brass. For fine tuning you can adjust so it headspaces on that shoulder against the lands and sets the casehead flush with the hood of the barrel - chamber checked out of the gun. Seat deeper if required for feeding. I seat bullets to suit my .45 with the shortest chamber, the others have to make do.

2. I don't think any of the Lyman SWCs are a faithful copy of the H&G No 68 and you cannot slavishly copy one bullet's specs to another.

 

[lgbloader]

1.250" OAL is fine for single stack 1911s, For double stack Paras and other .45ACP guns I've had to shorten them a bit

I ran into that, too. I love my LDA Limited but trying to dial in the perfect OAL took a couple of trys. My Kimber and Springfield single stacks were not as fussy.

Cheers...

 

[trickyasafox]

1.265 is the longest that runs in my 7rnd 1911 mags. It is also the most reliable feeding I got. Maybe its because all the semi-wadcutters I use aren't true HG 68 clones.

 

[schmeky]

1911 user and Jim Watson,

Same here. I have always used the forward shoulder of the bullet to determine the appropriate OAL based on how well the cartridge headspaces.

 

[Bula]

1.25 to 1.255 is what I like, I also saw reliability go up when when I crimped a little more. I don't think i was getting the bell removed all the way. Just a thought.

 

[kount_zer0]

Bula: The last step for my 45 acp setup is through the Lee FCD.

I used to have problems removing the bell, but that die solves that for me.

BTW, I'm in Gilbert!