.45lc Gp-100??

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This is a gun I've dreamed about for a while. 3" SS with a partial lug.

From what I understand this is possible. I've been told that it would have to have a 5 shot cylinder, which is fine, but what I can't find out is how sturdy it would be. I want a gun that can handle stout loads if I want it to. Nothing ridiculous but maybe 300grn @ 1100 fps. That is a load that I've fired and really liked.

So what do you guys think? Is this worth it and how much does this usually cost?

- D
 
I belive that the Ruger Alaskan in .45lc/.454 is what we are going to get.

I love my GP-100 and have wanted one in .45acp for a long time. I'd guess that the Alaskan is as close as we'll get, in a Ruger production, my friend. But hey, same grip and trigger, so it's not all that bad.

JRLaws.
 
Thanks for replying J.R.

Yeah I've held the Alaskan, and honestly I'd rather go with a shortened RedHawk. Maybe with some smaller grips.

O.K. so I took a minute and re-read Gunblast's article and took a look at the Ruger website. I still think it's too big to conceal with the Hogue® Tamer™ Monogrip®, but it's worth a second look. So I'll start saving and selling to see what I can get.

I'd still like an anwser to my original question. Please?

Some of you guys must have an idea. Is I because I don't post here often?

- D
 
I don't know how much a custom gun would cost. Probably a fair amount of $$$, since you couldn't just rebore the holes in a .357 six-shot GP cylinder. You would need a custom 5-shot cylinder. And to retime the hand.

A production five-shot version of the GP100 in a big-bore caliber has been a "wish gun" of Ruger buffs for some time now. My #1 choice would be a .44 Special, yours might be a .45 Colt, someone else's might well be a .41 Mag.

I'd take any of 'em. Great all-round outdoor sidearm.

But doesn't seem like Ruger's interested.
 
For me, it was not worth it.

To convert the GP-100, the gun would basicly have to be rebuilt. New cylinder, barrel and fitting. Then there's the question of how well the frame would hold up to the bigger loads.

I have not priced the custom work for the GP, but for the single actions it was high enough that an entire new gun (like a S&W 625) was more cost effective for me. I'm sure there are gunsmiths out there the could make you a gun, don't expect it to be cheap at all though.

Sorry, I don't have any web address or person to send you. Keep us informed of what you find out, I'd love to know what one cost.

JRLaws
 
If one is only going to shoot .45 LC through the revolver, I don't see the point to having a .454 Casull. I think shooting a shorter cartridge than the chamber is designed for might lead to slightly less inherent accuracy, and at the very least slightly more build up in the chambers.

I'd love a Ruger double action chambered in .45 Colt / .45 Colt +p. I may end up getting an Alaskan despite the Casull chambering, but I gaurantee that I wouldn't use it for Casull level loads. .44 magnum (in a FULL size revolver) is about the limit of my handgun recoil tolerance.
 
S&W, originator of the .44 Special, had a line of five-shot L-frame .44 Specials that died due to lack of sales. I doubt Ruger will follow that path. I gave up waiting three years ago and bought a pair of the last new S&W versions, the SS 696 and the Al/Ti 296. They are great!

I have a Ruger .45 Colt (+P+) in 5.5" SS - a Redhawk. Nice, big, traditional, and heavy sixshooter - with a weird trigger. My first S&W was a 4" 625 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt - far better shooter, IMNSHO. Sure, the .45 Colt 625 MG, which apparently is available again as a 'Stocking Dealer Exclusive', is limited to SAAMI spec ammo, where the RH can shoot just about anything you could load in a .45 Colt case. Oddly, Ruger dropped the .45 Colt RH's nearly a year ago. Interestingly, that 625 will outgroup the handheld/iron sighted RH, or even my now-traded 7.5" .454 SRH, with 'standard', ie, 'Cowboy', lead .45 Colt loads. If you want a nicely sized 4" .45 Colt DA sixshooter, with a very traditional partial lug and tapered barrel, look at that MG... it's 'real'; I had to give up on Ruger perceptuals!

Merry Christmas to ALL!

Stainz
 
I love the .45 Colt, but I have no real desire for one in a DA. I have a 4 5/8 inch blackhawk that is the ultimate outdoor tool for four legged or two legged critters. I don't sweat the reload time outdoors. I don't think I'm going to run into the crips or the bloods in the Guadeloupe mountains. :D I'll carry the thing just cause I like it. It's a might heavier than my .357 or my .22 and .38, but it packs a punch. That thing will group into an inch off bags at 25 yards with my +P+ hot loads or my 255 cast standard loads. It's a real shooter!

Besides, I love the look of a single action. I ain't no cowboy shooter or anything, just grew up when westerns were on TV.:D But, they make for a strong outdoor gun, for sure. I reckon the speer 200 grain HP at appropriate velocities would make for a danged decent self defense load in a small enough revolver, but I'd about as soon carry my 32 ounce P90 with up to nine rounds of .45ACP on tap (with the available 8 round mags). The gun just as light as a medium frame revolver, and flat. It's a little fat through the whithers, but it hides fine if it's cool enough for a vest over a T shirt. I rarely carry it, though, preferring my P11 Kel Tec. I can't remember ever carrying a K frame size revolver, though I own several. I have carried and do carry J frame size guns. Just don't feel the need for larger for CCW. I imagine that if a .45 colt were available in a K frame, few would opt for it. That's probably why they don't sell so well. It would be a cool outdoor packing piece, though. Lots of folks would rather have a DA than an SA and the mountain gun has sold well, all-be-it in .44 magnum mostly. But, I don't see Ruger getting huge sales of such a gun, even if it were a moon clipped .45ACP.

Oh, and merry Christmas to EVERYONE!:D
 
Thanks everyone!

I'll post something when I get my quotes back.

I like the mountian guns a lot, and I've almost bought one about three times. It may just turn out to be what I do. I really don't know what I want yet, so only time will tell.

Does anyone know if the MG can safely fire the Cor-Bon 300gr Hunter stuff?

- D
 
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A few years ago this topic came up on the Ruger Forum. The search function does work there, so I couldn't find the old thread.

IIRC... Jack Weigand said he could tool up to build .45 acp cylinders that would fit the GP frame. I don't remember if they were 5 or 6 shot. He needed enough folks to commit to buying the converted guns before it made any sense starting. He estimated the conversion would be around $800 on the customers gun.

Not enough interest at the time.

Joe
 
You guys got me stirred up and I had to take my old Colt New Service out for a whirl. I'm fiddling with a new load -- 16 grains of Hodgdon's Li'l Gun behind a 255 grain Lee bullet cast from wheel weights and lubed with liquid Alox.

Now, there's a real DA .45 and a good load.
 
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