6.5 Grendel Blackwater Article

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Many people who have been following the 6.5 Grendel asked to be informed when Armed Forces Journal released the 2004 Blackwater article.... here you go...

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/b.../analysis7.html

For those that rather just read what was printed.....

""""This year, the crew from Alexander Arms was invited to showcase a production model of the company's 6.5mm Grendel, which also uses the M16/AR15 frame. But our evaluators were equally anxious to get their hands on the Beowulf, which again performed flawlessly.

"This is the first time I have fired the Beowulf," one said. "I'm very impressed with its ease of operation, accuracy and stopping power. I plan to recommend this to our seaport security team as a limited-range, .50-cal weapon to reduce prospects of causing collateral damage."

"It's meant for short-range engagements," his colleague noted. "It would be good for patrols that might have to stop lightly armored enemy vehicles."

"Awesome power delivery," said another. To which one of his colleagues added: "Love the Beowulf!"

When AFJ's evaluators turned their attention to the Grendel, it was apparent immediately that they hadn't exhausted their superlatives.

"The Grendel is incredible," said one. "Alexander Arms should team with LeMas immediately."

"With my first shot, I hit the 500-yard target!" another noted. The 6.5mm is a "kick-ass round!"

"I'm very impressed with this new [6.5mm] caliber," another wrote. "It fills the gap between the 5.56 and the 7.62-by-51mm."

"Accurate as hell," opined another after shooting the 24-inch-barreled weapon. "Very little recoil; lightweight and easy to handle."

"Low recoil; super accurate; 100 percent hits on a 10-inch plate at 500 yards. The weapon is well-finished, with the requisite M1913 rails for all the bells and whistles. It's an odd caliber, but the gun is nicely executed and effective."

No negative comments were recorded about the 6.5mm Grendel.

As is the case with the CheyTac .408, sources tell AFJ that a Grendel went to Iraq shortly after the Shoot-out."""""

Armored Glass Challenge---------------

"""""This year's match up, which opened on a Thursday afternoon, began with LeMas' new Land Warfare armor-piercing, fragmenting 5.56mm round (46 gr/4,010 fps) pitted against a new product from ADS: a 1.75-inch VistaSteel-SentryGlass Plus panel, which had not been tested previously against high-velocity bullets such as those sold by LeMas. From a distance of about 10 yards the panel stopped all three rounds.

In the second round, Alexander Arms wanted to see what its 6.5mm (144 gr/2,250 fps) full metal jacket slug, fed through a short-barrel (18? inch) Grendel, could do against a similar glass barrier. (In a standard, 24-inch Grendel, the 144-grain slug leaves the barrel at 2,450 fps.) The results were the same; the glass held.

The third round pitted LeMas' new 5.56 Hardened Armor Priority Penetrator (42 grains/3,850 fps) against a 1.575-inch panel; all rounds punched their way through the glass. Similarly, three shots from the Grendel made their way through."""""

Source - Armed Forces Journal - Copyright 2004
 
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Thanks for the link!

Anyone know how 308 FMJ, 5.56 77gr, M193,or M855 do against the 1.575 panels?

"With my first shot, I hit the 500-yard target!" another noted. The 6.5mm is a "kick-ass round!"

"Low recoil; super accurate; 100 percent hits on a 10-inch plate at 500 yards. The weapon is well-finished, with the requisite M1913 rails for all the bells and whistles. It's an odd caliber, but the gun is nicely executed and effective."

Is this the new criteria for selecting a cartridge? My 223 will do this all day.

-z
 
I suppose the round could be adopted as an all purpose infantry round, IE it could be used in the M-16, SAW, M-240, and in sniper weapons, but is the cash outlay for that really worth the extra range/extra punch (extra punch on paper, you can never tell how a round will really perform till you kill something with it).
 
Anyone know how 308 FMJ, 5.56 77gr, M193,or M855 do against the 1.575 panels?

The 6.5 Grendel firing the 144 FMJBT at 2250 fps MV and Lamas 5.56 NATO Hardened Armor Priority Penetrator (42 grains/3,850 fps) were the only two round rounds that penetrated the 1.575 inch panel. Since the 5.56 NATO required a high velocity specialized armor piercing round to succeed, the other 5.56 rounds would not have and no one bothered to shoot them. However, as it relates to the 7.62 NATO and this will provide additional insight on the standard 5.56 NATO rounds, the 1.575 inch glass panel was proof tested and defeated the 7.62 NATO M80 ball (.308 FMJ) fired from an M14 at the event.
 
There was no .243 caliber cartridges present at the Armed Forces Journal event and the only .270 caliber cartridge in attendance, the 6.8 SPC, declined to shoot in the armored glass challenge.
 
thats pretty amazing that the glass defeated M80 ball but not the grendel's projectile. I wonder if you made a tungsten carbide bullet for 6.5 grendel and a tungsten carbide bullet for 308 which would have greater penetration. The SD on the grendel is obviously higher, but the muzzle energy on the 308 is greater.

atek
 
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