6.5 Grendel

[Jaws]

Of course the .308 is going to do better until it slows down enough that the 6.5 passes it up

Just because the 6.5 bullet may be a bit faster doesn't mean it will have better terminal performance than a heavier .30cal bullet.

 

[Maverick223]

Just because the 6.5 bullet may be a bit faster doesn't mean it will have better terminal performance than a heavier .30cal bullet.

+1, the 6.5Grendel is an outstanding LR round for the AR-15 platform, but it is no .308Win., much less a .260Rem. The AR-10 beats it every time no matter how you look at it.

 

[longdayjake]

Just because the 6.5 bullet may be a bit faster doesn't mean it will have better terminal performance than a heavier .30cal bullet.

And the same stands true that just because the .30 cal is heavier doesn't mean it will have better terminal performance than the longer 6.5 bullet. The only way to really tell is to get shot by both at 1000 yards and see which one hurts more.

 

[Jaws]

The .30 cal already shot and dropped plenty of bad guys at 1000m. We already know it's very effective.
We don't know that much about the 6.5, but we do know that all countries that used it in combat, changed it for a bigger round.

 

[Maverick223]

We don't know that much about the 6.5, but we know that all countries that used it in combat, changed it for a bigger round.

...and what country used the 6.5G exactly? Also, some countries used 6.5x55, and changed to 7.62NATO...You'll have a heck of a time convincing me that was a good idea.

 

[Jaws]

I was talking about the 6.5 in general.
The sewdish 6.5x55mm is probably the 6.5mm cartridge with the longest service life. But on the other hand Sweden was neutral in ww1 and ww2.

 

[longdayjake]

Wait... I don't know much european history but I was under the impression that the 6.5x55 was used pretty successfully against the USSR and their .30 cals at one point.

 

[Maverick223]

But on the other hand Sweden was neutral in ww1 and ww2.

Nope, you're thinking of Swizerland...the guys with the other super-accurate bolt gun, and they used 7.5mm (.30cal.). The Swedes were not neutral at all, and sure enough they made the best of that 6.5mm.

 

[longdayjake]

Okay. I just got done looking it up. You are right.

 

[Jaws]

Sweden was neutral for 200 years.

 

[Maverick223]

Sweden was neutral for 200 years.

They may have been "neutral", but they still fought in WWII, which makes them active participants, and not so neutral.

 

[longdayjake]

It looks like the only official use of the 6.5x55 cartridge during WWII was the Norwegian Krag-Jorgensen. Though Norway was neutral we all know that Germany invaded them and Norway along with France and Britain held off the Germans longer than any of the other countries invaded by Germany except for Russia.

 

[Jaws]

Sweden was neutral. They did some trade with Germany, helped Finland a bit with voluteers and material during the Winter War, and allowed German transport to the front from time to time . That's about it.

 

[Hatterasguy]

I'll buy a rifle in this caliber when NATO converts to it.

7.5 Swiss is fun enough to find, thats as oddball as I go.