72 hour kit / Bug Out Bag - Area Evacuation - SanDiego Fires

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KC&97TA

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Luckly I didn't have to evacuate, but we had started to prepare to leave if the fire came to us.

Little insight; my wife and I are both active duty Marines, no kids, she has a Jeep Cherokee 4x4 and I a K1500 standard cab truck, we have "room" to haul alot, we were going to leave the sports car and come back for it if possible. We planned to relocate to the beach on Camp Pendleton (pretty secure location) and if we had to stay we planed to borrow or rent a camper trailer. I'm TAD to an unit there and our unit armory is located there (never suggest putting personal weapons in the armory). We have alot of survival gear, both issued and personally owned.

We didn't have a plan in place, so we made a list:

Most of the items we already had on hand to survive ruggedly; MRE's, Chem Lights, surefire flashlights, extra batteries, hand crank radio, gps, SF survival kit, sleeping bags, body armor, ponchos, a 2 man tent, multi tools, pocket knives, squad stove, face masks, cold weather clothing, sun screen, hygene items, pot & pan, paper plates, plastic forks, plastic drinking bottles, water purification system, camelpacks, dry food goods, canned food, garbage bags, soap, had 7 gallons of water, water was still running so we filled up about 5 gallons of extra water, extra clothes, fireproof safe that has all sensitive paper work, digitial camera and laptops and uniforms.

Things we added on the "we can haul more" review; blankets, pillows, extention cords, shop light, DVD's, CD's, external hard drive, family photos, camping chairs, gas grill, all the tools, cordless drill, hand saw, gas can, siphon pump, fire extingusher, liquor, wine and all uniform items.

First thing we Learned

We forgot about 'all' our Dogs needs, we remembered; Dog Food, Leashes, Crates, but neglected to consider; Dog Toys, where to house the Dogs? If we were sleeping in a 2 man dome tent, were do you put a full grown Lab and a Springer Spaniel puppy? After we had reviewed our list, we also considered that the four legged friends drink 1-1/2 gallons of water a day.

All of our gear was very well organized but nothing was in a "grab and go" organized method, I'm OCD on organization in the garage, but nothing was set up to "grab and go", no were did I have a "Kit" set up, most of the items were stored by "like ness" or how often they get used, we could grab every storage container... but then we'd have alot of stuff we wouldn't need... but we do have room to "haul alot of stuff".

What went Well

This is due more to "extremely non-flexible scheduals and long work weeks". We usally keep 5 gallons of bottled water around, we usally keep a good stock of non perishable food, we had plenty of gas for grill, we usally keep at least a 3 week supply of dog food, had booze and tobacoo (for bartering).

Things we stumbled upon by accident or by just generally being prepared.

We had some cash on hand, big accident, I never keep cash! But had just sold a set of shocks and a shotgun in the past 2 weekends, never made it to the bank. The vehicles already had small tool kits, the truck had a shovel, the vehicles already had flashlights, blankets, first aid kits, and more than 3/4 tanks of gas in all vehicles. Had a large cooler home from work, normally have it, but sometimes leave it at work, need to buy my own cooler.

SHTF / Katrina Stuff

Ammo was not an issue, I have more ammo than I wished to transport given our relocatetion destination, or any other "civil" destination, first thing to come to mind "Katrina Looting", call me crazy, but a loaded handgun for each adult with 'several extra' mags was already in place, the rifle mags were already loaded as well, talking quadruple combat load plus. Many extra empty mags and ammo was on hand, keep in mind I have over 50 USGI M16 mags and about 20 USGI M9 mags, so there wasn't a need to load them all right away.

Pistol belts and chest rigs were already in place; body armor, sappi plates, first aid kits, compass, flashlights, multitools, were already tested and set up.

Things that proved a pain in the butt

Ran out of lockable long gun cases, this has been taken care of, got another case, sold a shotgun. Didn't have all the pad locks in one place, had to search for them, they've been relocated. The puppy has been housed in the big crate durring the day, puppy doesn't fit into the puppy crate anymore, may need to consider buying another 'large dog travel crate'. Have a third car, this is what I pay insurance for I guess. I don't own a CQB style shotgun, all rifles have "over penetration" issues. Wifes National Match Rifle weighs 15lbs, considering removeing the competition weights from the rifle for any evacuation planning, wife won't let any ammo besides 'molly coated' go down the barrel of her gun... molly coated rounds are about a $1 each for .223, really considering a budget A2 or a A3 upper.

Even as a professed 1911 man, the 1911's got packed up and passed over for the 92FS and XD40... not for the magazine capacity, for the fact that the 1911's cost so much more to replace, in the event that it took a while to get my side arm back after a self defense shooting.

Only have one copy of CA 'dangerous weapons permit' for 2 AR's, need another copy of the permit.

For what it's worth I though I'd post this little bit of insight, while I sit here bored, I might as well make a 'good' contribution to the highroad way of life.
 
some one said it in another thread, as a member of the armed forces, your the people who are going to get the food, the med's , the backup. you have friends , friends with guns, friends with long guns, friends with automatics and friends with armored support.

ao long term SHTF you have no worrys, just promise us not to participate in a NO gun grab.

as for short term ( from home to base) sounds like you got everything under control
 
:uhoh: I feel so underprepared

Interesting post, I'm at least at the thinking about it stage and taking some action, but I have soooo far to go for bug-in / bug-out, that's why I'm reading threads like this when I see them, but can't offer any additional insight at this time. Thanks for posting your thoughts though.

And thanks for your service.

Regards,

Karz
 
I live in the PRK and I'm not 21 (and I don't have the cash for a shotgun or anything, not that my parents are supportive of having a gun in the home), so my "kit" is probably a little different. It's more of an evac kit than a survival kit in any sense, as it has no food (I'm really the only one in the house with any tactical mindset), but if, for example, aliens invaded or something and I had to leave the house for an extended period of time (to run away for whatever reason- earthquake, riots, fire, whatever- it's the PRK), I do have my "kit" next to my bed.

In my pack- all of my yearbooks, first aid kit, walkie talkies, sentimental stuff. On top of the backpack, a tactical vest. In the M16 pouches are 500 mL water bottles. In the pistol mag pouches are a flashlight, binoculars, knife, and multi tool. In the radio pouch is an emergency blanket. In the pistol holster (on the vest) is a 250 mL water bottle. In the single pouch on my vest is another emergency blanket, flint, ridiculously small radio /w earphones and spare batteries, compass, small lighter, matches, and a few other goodies.

Next to that is another backpack with spare clothes, boots, and another assorted gear and clothing. In the event of an earthquake, I can get the vest and pack on (the vest is placed so that I can just sling it right on in the dark), toss the other pack with the clothes over the stair railing to the front door, and haul. Basically, it has everything I'd want to have and keep in the event of an extended emergency except food.


If I end up living on my own and getting a job (I hope to do that someday, by the way), my car will be set and I'll have a real bug-out/emergency kit, but as a college-going 19 year old without a job, that's the best I can do. =/
 
KC&97TA:

Sounds like you've got things pretty well covered. Have you got a plan for both you and your wife being called in for duty? I can see a problem if you get to your bugout site and then have to leave a bunch of stuff behind while you both have to report for duty. The dogs would be a special problem. Sounds like a good reason to make plans with folks other than just you and your wife. For my part, if I lived in the same area as you, I'd be more than happy to have people with you and your wife's training and mind set around and also to assist with site security while you attended to your duties. Just another thought...

Edited to add:

The reason I've given this scenario some thought is that, even as a part-time LEO, I'm subject to being called in for duty in an emergency. I've made arrangements for my wife to stay with friends should that occur. I have the option of not going in if things were really, REALLY bad, but I don't think you and your wife could do that. BTW, thanks for your service and stay safe.

An old SAC troop to a marine. ;)
 
In my pack- all of my yearbooks

I know they may have sentimental value, but they are dead weight you should consider losing them in favor of something more useful such as a small amount of cash and/or some sort of food such as MREs. Think about it, if you are forced to relocate and have no cash or food, how are you going to eat? It could be several days before emergency relief arrives. Also, the ability to sit down and eat something can help to keep you calm in a stressful situation.
 
all of my yearbooks

Trust me, in 10 years... you won't remember anyone you went to school with and won't be able to find your yearbooks... and you won't even care.
 
Ithaca said:
I know they may have sentimental value, but they are dead weight you should consider losing them in favor of something more useful such as a small amount of cash and/or some sort of food such as MREs. Think about it, if you are forced to relocate and have no cash or food, how are you going to eat? It could be several days before emergency relief arrives. Also, the ability to sit down and eat something can help to keep you calm in a stressful situation.

Heh, MRE's- the reason I don't have those is because I don't have those, and can't afford them at the moment. They aren't even readily available to me, or they'd be in the second pack. As far as cash goes, that's in my wallet and right next to my bed. Just toss it in the pocket. :)

stevemis said:
Trust me, in 10 years... you won't remember anyone you went to school with and won't be able to find your yearbooks... and you won't even care.

Oh I'll remember. I'm not sure how it was in your day or at your school, but the group I hung out with was small and close knit. Grew up in the same place, hung out when we were kids, parents knew each other forever- it's a small, close knit town as a whole. We were all in the same classes for a good decade plus. I still remember most of them (even the ones I didn't hang out with so much) just because of that. To add to that, HS was the best time of my life. I hate college. :p

Tack on the internet and ease of staying in touch, and it's just hard to let go.
 
Consider putting a tow bar on the Cherokee. It can be flat towed behind your truck by placing both the transmission and transfercase into neutral.
Do not allow your vehicles to get under 1/2 a tank. Consider keeping 10-20 gallons of gas on hand, so you can top both vehicles up. Once a month rotate it. Get a hand-siphon kit, so you can get gas from other sources.
Keep 2 of the big plastic totes in your closet, empty. If you've got time to dump clothing into them you wont' be wearing the same skivvies for a week.
 
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